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Liberals Don’t Get To Have It Both Ways With White Americans
Townhall.com ^ | September 2, 2017 | John Hawkins

Posted on 09/02/2017 4:55:14 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: GOPJ

Moore’s “feel-good” statements about minorities contrast sharply w/ where this hypocritical liberal lives.


41 posted on 09/02/2017 9:12:44 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: xp38

Oh don’t get me started on how insane these categories are. My friend from South Africa, her white son is literally an African American but these officials would not accept that. My own daughter is “impossible” on some forms that say WHITE, NOT HISPANIC or HISPANIC. She is both. Face palm.


42 posted on 09/02/2017 9:29:36 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: Liz
Of course, there are places in America where white people are already a minority; so why doesn’t Michael Moore live in one of them? If he really believes he’s better off with less white people around, why didn’t he build a mansion in Compton or inner-city Detroit instead of having one in 96% white Torch Lake?

Yes indeed...

43 posted on 09/02/2017 9:34:47 AM PDT by GOPJ (Nancy Pelosi didn't 'disavow' Antifa FAST ENOUGH - ask Pelosi another 200 times MSNBC...)
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To: Ancesthntr
There was an interesting documentary made of what would happen if humans disappeared. The subways in our big cities would start flooding within a matter of hours. House cats (which could escape) would do okay, dogs much less so. Rodents would proliferate as would undulates and their predators.

Within a decade, most bridges would collapse and roadways would be more grass than pavement.

44 posted on 09/02/2017 9:40:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: GOPJ

I think Michael Moore KNOWS that saying something THIS STUPID will get him the free advertising he wants, and the liberal love in order to finance another movie.


45 posted on 09/02/2017 9:45:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: GOPJ

I think Michael Moore KNOWS that saying something THIS STUPID will get him the free advertising he wants, and the liberal love in order to finance another movie.


46 posted on 09/02/2017 9:45:29 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: uncbob

We don’t know what they are like axed with. Until there is voter ID, and a border wall it is all speculation!

I am thinking that the voting has been rigged in some areas for a long time. Why else would everyone and I mean everyone believe that Hillary was suppose to be the winner.


47 posted on 09/02/2017 9:45:37 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals are shooting them self in the foot by their actions for the last year it’s a lame and dangerous logic exposed.


48 posted on 09/02/2017 10:18:09 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Kaslin
All well and good - but the problem is always, “Who will bell the cat?”

“The cat” is not really the Democrat Party. “The cat” is monopoly wire-service journalism. Essentially, the AP and its member news propaganda outlets. All very well to speak of sauce for the goose being sauce for the gander - but what happens to anyone who explicitly stands up for white people as white people???

It all boils down to the fact that the AP is like a great middle linebacker, who will always get to the point of your attack no matter where it is. You can’t run away from it, because it will always catch up with the play. If you can run at all, you can only do so by running at it - because nobody else on their team will be nearly as able to help it, as it will be able to help anyone else on the team.

Thanks be to God, SCOTUS is not lost - as it would already have been, had Hillary were POTUS. We can’t rely on Congress, even with Republican majority leaders in both houses. And we can’t rely on the POTUS, except to the extent that he is naming good judges. If we can bring the right case to SCOTUS, we should IMHO be able to trim the sails of the AP.

The AP is a monopoly which in 1945 was found by SCOTUS to be in violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act (1890) - Free Republic. But back then, the issue before the Court was a mere fight between two wire services, on the one hand, and the possibility of serious sanctions against wire services as such would have been considered utterly impractical on the other. Now both the issue and the potential remedy which could be considered are on an entirely different scale.

Now the tort inflicted is not merely on a business competitor, the tort is inflicted on American society.  

People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations
The AP and its member news outlets are “people of the same trade” - journalism - and the AP newswire is a virtual meeting among them all. This “meeting” started in the middle of the Nineteenth Century, with no end is in sight. And this “meeting,” far from concerning only "merriment and diversion,” is precisely about the prosecution of “trade” of journalism. According to Adam Smith, then, the existence of a “conspiracy against the public” among the AP and its members is inevitable. But how and why does the resulting conspiracy act against the public?

The motive of any conspiracy is to promote the interests of the conspirators. The inherent motives of journalists are to promote the importance and profitability of journalism. Journalists want to be paid, everyone does. And journalists “want to make a difference." Adam Smith again:

The man whom we believe is necessarily, in the things concerning which we believe him, our leader and director, and we look up to him with a certain degree of esteem and respect. But as from admiring other people we come to wish to be admired ourselves; so from being led and directed by other people we learn to wish to become ourselves leaders and directors . . .

The desire of being believed, the desire of persuading, of leading and directing other people, seems to be one of the strongest of all our natural desires. - Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments (1759)

The question is, “How and to what extent does the desire of journalists (as opposed to, say, plumbers or carpenters) for influence run counter to the public interest?” What is “the public interest,” anyway? The interest of society lies in “life” (security), “liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” of persons whatever their status in society. The interest of society lies in the absence of bad news to report. In contrast, the interest of journalism lies in gaining the interest and credence of the public. Since reporting bad news to society, about society, is the sovereign path to gaining the interest of the public, interesting the public is pretty close to being the very opposite of “the public interest.” Thus, journalism has practically no motive to report good news about society, but plenty of motive to report bad news about society.

The implication of that is very clear:

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil . . . For were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver; but that not being the case, he finds it necessary to surrender up a part of his property to furnish means for the protection of the rest; and this he is induced to do by the same prudence which in every other case advises him, out of two evils to choose the least. Wherefore, security being the true design and end of government, it unanswerably follows that whatever form thereof appears most likely to ensure it to us, with the least expense and greatest benefit, is preferable to all others. - Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)
That is, skepticism about society is the only justification for government. Reporting only bad news about society ineluctably justifies ever more government. Faith in society is the inverse of faith in government, cynicism about society tends to justify expanded government, even tyranny. Society’s interest is in freedom; ideologically monopolistic journalism, simply by following its S.O.P. for selecting what stories to report, and how extensively to report them, promotes tyranny.

And that is only by part of what they admit to doing. The AP also publishes standards of the way things are expressed, including things like never referring to illegally present aliens as anything but “undocumented.” This is a blatant expression of ideological monopoly “reporting.” What they do not admit to is lying - libeling people and organizations which are significant to society.

One blatant example of this is George Zimmerman - a man whose prosecution was promoted by journalism. Including by the blatant procedure of broadcasting the famous recorded discussion between Zimmerman and the police, with an answer and then a question excised. The investigators into the death of Trayvon Martin found ample evidence to vindicate Zimmerman’s account, and journalism conspired in plain public view to have Zimmerman indicted and tried. The evidence presented at trial vindicated the initial decision not to recommend prosecution. And yet the fact that Mr. Zimmerman’s actions were legal can be expressed, as Thomas Sowell might say, only "anonymously or posthumously.”

Another example would be the Duke Lacrosse “rape” case, which was promoted long enough for a baby to be conceived and gestate to full term. Notwithstanding the fact that less than two weeks in it was pretty obvious that the defendants were being railroaded. As the defendants were ultimately vindicated.

Similarly, it is presently obvious that “anti-fascist” is currently a code for actual fascist behavior.

This sort of thing has been happening in America at least since the communists were being opposed by Whittaker Chambers and Senator Joe McCarthy, and probably before.

Is it actually possible that all that is not a tort which is actionable in court?


49 posted on 09/02/2017 11:41:44 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Kaslin
Liberals Don’t Get To Have It Both Ways With White Americans

Incorrect. Liberals get to have it an infinite number of ways, in order to advance their agenda.`

50 posted on 09/02/2017 11:44:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Kaslin

*bump*

Good one from Mr. Hawkins.

I really dislike being called racist by liberals simply because I want all Americans to thrive regardless of their race.


51 posted on 09/02/2017 12:14:58 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: uncbob

I am a native CALIFORNIAN, I don’t have any white guilt.
I am white, GOD made me that way, I didn’t have any choice in the matter.
California used to be the least racist state in the country, we didn’t care what color a person was as long as they did their job.
Since 1965 I have been taught (by blacks and browns) that there is racism in my state, yes, I have been taught what hate is.
By democrats, blacks, and browns.
I will take that hate to my grave, with very few exceptions; God will judge me.
I really liked the late 40’s and the 50’s, when we were all just people, and AMERICANS.


52 posted on 09/02/2017 1:53:10 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: cdcdawg

They want South Africa. It’s a crime ridden hellhole where whites are hunted and killed in horrific ways. They would allow that to happen here gladly.


53 posted on 09/03/2017 12:08:14 PM PDT by Luke21
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