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Donald Trump attacked what makes America great
New York Post ^ | September 25, 2017 | Joel Sherman

Posted on 09/25/2017 10:32:22 PM PDT by TBP

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To: TBP

Great letter you wrote there.


21 posted on 09/25/2017 11:28:21 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: snarkytart

Yeah, and it’s not like we’re hoping to see the players beaten down with sticks or bike locks. We just want to see them held to account by their management, or we want to see their management held to account by the fans. Unlike the left we don’t wish violence against those who we disagree with.


22 posted on 09/25/2017 11:29:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: TBP

Hey Joel Sherman; the best thing that could happen to you is for you to have to say the Pledge of Allegiance every morning before you start work. Maybe it would start to sink in who and what went before you to allow you to show up for that job and live free in this country. People died you freaking idiot to preserve what you take for granted so yeah; say the Pledge of Allegiance and also stand for the nation anthem for good measure dipshit.


23 posted on 09/25/2017 11:33:43 PM PDT by Boomer (HRC is like a bad case of facial herpes. It's ugly, painful, embarrassing, and keeps returning.)
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To: dila813

It is often hard to determine if Liberals are merely stupid or evil or a mixture.

It is really quite simple.
Professional football players are entertainers.
People pay money to be entertained by their antics (playing a game).
If an entertainer insults and “turns off” his/her paying audience, they will no longer feel entertained and so likely change to some other entertainment.

duh?


24 posted on 09/25/2017 11:34:44 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The Republicans support Trump with the same energy they opposed Obama /s)
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To: TBP
How bizarre would it be if each day you showed up at work as a plumber or truck driver or lawyer and you first had to stand for the national anthem?

How bizarre would it be if I went to cash my check at the bank and the teller went on a knee and raised a black power fist in the air? He can do that, right? Because he has a right to protest on the job?
25 posted on 09/25/2017 11:37:20 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: dila813

Quite.

NFL leaders must be stupid.
Here, the sport of pro football is under attack via the charges of “players damage their brains”.
That is a serious issue, likely to hurt the sport.

But no, now they have to shove their politics into the faces of the people who are just their to watch a game.

Talk about doubling down on stupid.....geez.

But then again, only an idiot or a liberal would fail to see the problem.


26 posted on 09/25/2017 11:38:57 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The Republicans support Trump with the same energy they opposed Obama /s)
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To: TBP

Joel, let me explain it to you. The elites in this country (and you are one of them) hide behind the Constitution and use it as a shield when it furthers their agenda. Basically, the Constitution (especially the First Amemdment) and the rights afforded thereby are regarded as a privilege of the elite.

Elites refusing to stand for the National Anthem or respect the flag, that’s expression of the highest order and a privilege of the elite that must be protected above all else!! .

The little people objecting and expressing a differing view of the respect they feel the flag deserves, why that is racism!!! The little people have no such privilege to express anything but what the elites espouse. Do so, and you are guilty of an anti-PC crime of the highest order.


27 posted on 09/25/2017 11:39:31 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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Don't play it?

At what point do we stop taking down the statues?

28 posted on 09/25/2017 11:55:37 PM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: a fool in paradise

This never was a First Amendment issue esp. since the NFL Charter specifically denies players and others any right to disrupt or show discourteous behavior. And there are penalties for such acts.
Thanks to radio show host Bill Cunningham for reading these NFL rules over the Mark Levine Show last night for all to hear.

Goodell and the coaches are leftist/PC asswipes and as they say about following football, “I’m outta here”.


29 posted on 09/26/2017 12:14:17 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: TBP
Also, when exactly did how we behave during a national anthem become a litmus test on our patriotism?

From the Sept. 19, 2011 issue of ESPN The Magazine:


THAT STORY BEGINS, as so many tales in modern American sports do, with Babe Ruth. History records various games in which "The Star-Spangled Banner" was played dating from the mid-1800s, but Ruth's last postseason appearances for the Boston Red Sox coincided with the song's first unbreakable bond with the sports world, in 1918. Game 1 of that year's World Series was notable for many reasons...

There was also World War I, which blackened everything, including the national pastime. The U.S. had entered the war 17 months earlier, and in that time some 100,000 American soldiers died. Veterans who survived often came home maimed or shell-shocked from encounters with modern warfare's first mechanized mass-killing machines. At home, the public mood was sullen and anxious. The war strained the economy and the workforce, including baseball's. The government began drafting major leaguers for military service that summer and ordered baseball to end the regular season by Labor Day. As a result, the 1918 Series was the lone October Classic played entirely in September.

World War I wasn't the only issue weighing heavily on fans. On Sept. 4, the day before the first game, a bomb ripped through the Chicago Federal Building, killing four people and injuring 30. The Industrial Workers of the World were thought to be behind the attack, a retaliation for the conviction of several IWW members on federal sedition charges...

Although the Cubs festooned the park in as much red, white and blue as possible, the glum crowd in the stands for Game 1 remained nearly silent through most of Ruth's 1-0 shutout victory over Chicago's Hippo Vaughn. Not even the Cubs Claws, the forerunners to Wrigley's Bleacher Bums, could gin up enthusiasm...

With one exception: the seventh-inning stretch. As was common during sporting events, a military band was on hand to play, and while the fans were on their feet, the musicians fired up "The Star-Spangled Banner." They weren't the only active-duty servicemen on the field, though. Red Sox third baseman Fred Thomas was playing the Series while on furlough from the Navy, where he'd been learning seamanship at the Great Lakes Naval Training Station in Chicago...

Upon hearing the opening notes of Key's song from the military band, Thomas immediately faced the flag and snapped to attention with a military salute. The other players on the field followed suit, in "civilian" fashion, meaning they stood and put their right hands over their hearts. The crowd, already standing, showed its first real signs of life all day, joining in a spontaneous sing-along, haltingly at first, then finishing with flair. The scene made such an impression that The New York Times opened its recap of the game not with a description of the action on the field but with an account of the impromptu singing: "First the song was taken up by a few, then others joined, and when the final notes came, a great volume of melody rolled across the field. It was at the very end that the onlookers exploded into thunderous applause and rent the air with a cheer that marked the highest point of the day's enthusiasm."

The Cubs front office realized it had witnessed something unique. For the next two games, it had the band play "The Star-Spangled Banner" during the seventh-inning stretch, to similarly enthusiastic crowds. By Game 3, a bigger crowd of 27,000 was in attendance. Not to be outdone, the Red Sox ratcheted up the pageantry when the Series relocated to Boston for the next three games. At Fenway Park, "The Star-Spangled Banner" moved from the seventh-inning stretch to the pregame festivities, and the team coupled the playing of the song with the introduction of wounded soldiers who had received free tickets. Like the Chicago fans, the normally reserved Boston crowd erupted for the pregame anthem and the hobbled heroes. As the Tribune wrote of the wounded soldiers at Game 6, "[T]heir entrance on crutches supported by their comrades evoked louder cheers than anything the athletes did on the diamond..."

Still, the Series' most enduring legacy belongs to a song. Other major league teams noticed the popular reaction to "The Star-Spangled Banner" in 1918, and over the next decade it became standard for World Series and holiday games. In subsequent years, through subsequent wars, it grew into the daily institution we know today...

Congress didn't officially adopt the "The Star-Spangled Banner" until 1931 -- and by that time it was already a baseball tradition steeped in wartime patriotism. Thanks to a brass band, some fickle fans and a player who snapped to attention on a somber day in September, the old battle ballad was the national pastime's anthem more than a decade before it was the nation's.


-PJ

30 posted on 09/26/2017 12:16:05 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: TBP

Donald Trump attacked what makes America great>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CRAP. FAKE NEWS!

Donald Trump is fighting against racial and ethnic nationalism.These NFL guys are in tune with the Obama Alinsky movement which seeks to dis-unify America through race mongering. A police officer was exonerated through the due process of his trial for killing a black man in the course of duty and the NFL goes nuts? Eff them.

Hasn’t anyone noticed? We have major cities that refuse to follow federal law.Chicago is a war zone from this shit!

President Trump is right on.

I have shut down the NFL in my life. They can GTH in a hand basket.

As far as the Alinsky radicals? Bring it to the streets. We will chew you up and spit you into the gutter.


31 posted on 09/26/2017 1:18:41 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama Fascism http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: TBP

President Trump got it right. This writer is an insipid fool.


32 posted on 09/26/2017 1:45:51 AM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: TBP

Racial injustice? Krapperneck promoted killing police officers. Hands Up Don’t Shoot is a myth. Baltimore is a myth.

Chicago is real. If these pompous pampered players want to make a difference, go to the South Side and help rebuild broken families.


33 posted on 09/26/2017 3:20:01 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: TBP

Sherman called the U.S. “the most important country on globe”. That makes him a racist nationalist and will probably get him fired. Oh well.


34 posted on 09/26/2017 3:26:54 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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To: TBP

Self censored.

Joel, you couldn’t be any more out of touch if you tried(even though it is clear you are trying). Even my very liberal neighbor who moved here from Kalifonia thinks Trump is right.


35 posted on 09/26/2017 3:33:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: TBP

Hey Joel, you dumbass Leftist — playing the National Anthem is not politicizing. Unless you’re a dumbass Leftist.


36 posted on 09/26/2017 3:36:00 AM PDT by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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To: existtoexcel

“At what point do we stop taking down the statues? “

When they are all gone.


37 posted on 09/26/2017 3:40:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: TBP

If I am outside a 8 in the morning at work, I face the nearest flag, hand over my heart, and stand at attention....for morning colors. I work for the Navy.


38 posted on 09/26/2017 3:47:04 AM PDT by fredhead (Duty, Honor, Country.....Honor, Courage, Commitment)
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To: TBP
Don't know him but he's definitely either stupid or profusely misleading. The Constitution and those who died for what it stands for made this Nation great - those who exercise the rights that were given to them by far better men and women have nothing to do with what made this Nation great - they are just the leeches that feed off the noble bodies of those who made it happen.

So many try to equate vile leeches with the noble men and women and concepts of the Nation and nobody seems to bother correcting them with the blunt force of un-nuanced Truth.

39 posted on 09/26/2017 3:49:47 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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If the “kneers” think Trump is the only one who disagrees with them, they’d better look around. This is not about our President... it’s about the country... and the country is upset over the sports nuts who mistakenly think they are important enough to take a knee to our flag and our national anthem.

They took that wagon and ran it into the ditch... big time. The flag and singing the national anthem is more important to Americans than a football team that doesn’t have enough clout or brains to understand that they are slamming our country and spreading leftist’s stupidity. It’s real disappointing to see the coaches and the owners be in that same wagon.


40 posted on 09/26/2017 3:57:20 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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