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Who’s Divisive — the President or the Players? The athletes started this public feud.
National Review ^ | 09/26/2017 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 09/26/2017 7:43:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

The issue is, what exactly are they kneeling about in the first place? This whole thing goes back to Ferguson and the whole “hands up, don’t shoot” fabrication. These people are propagandizing as many American people as they can into believing the narrative that cops are deliberately and indiscriminately shooting down innocent young black men all over the country, which is utter nonsense.

This weekend dramatically exposed the NFL’s support for BLM and to show they’re not going to stand for a flag that represented such injustice. Make it be known the NFL supports cop killers of BLM and the violent thugs of ANTIFA who are also connected to BLM.

This would be like the NFL in the 60s/70s supporting black panthers or weather underground or something like that.

The NFL is now supporting or in unity with two groups who are just as violent and radical.

Why?


21 posted on 09/26/2017 8:23:34 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: FlipWilson
The real civil war is the elite v. the little people.

Careful. That's part of the Marxist narrative. That everyone belongs to either the bourgeois or the proletariat, one or the other, that they are in permanent conflict, that it must be resolved through upheaval (with a dispensation toward violence).

But in America you can be poor one moment and rich another moment. Just look at these athletes! Most came from lower middle class or lower class backgrounds, and now they make millions or tens of millions in a year! That's America. And many of them will be destitute in 15 years because they didn't handle their fortunes wisely. In America we have mobility, but we don't resent someone for their success, and we want to help the unsuccessful become successful. Put another way, there is such a thing as creation of wealth -- someone can become wealthy without forcing someone else into poverty.

22 posted on 09/26/2017 8:27:41 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: SeekAndFind
Honesty feels almost as good as fighting conservatives. Try it.

Are you kidding me? The left bends over backwards to avoid honesty. That is how St. Skittles and the Not-So-Gentle-Giant remain martyrs instead of honestly being designated as thugs who were on the receiving end of justifiable homicide.

23 posted on 09/26/2017 8:36:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: bert

you dumba$$ - don’t use language like that here.


25 posted on 09/26/2017 8:40:37 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: SeekAndFind

According to the media and progressives, it is only the conservative side of a dispute that is “divisive.”


26 posted on 09/26/2017 8:43:58 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: NorthMountain
This crap started last year with Colon Krappernick, his muzztard girlfriend, and his support for black cop-killers.

That started a fire that will burn down the NFL. Trump's contribution was to throw a tanker full of gasoline on it.

Yes, and for that they accuse him of "censorship" because he represents the government -- but he didn't say HE is firing the knee-walking players, he said the OWNERS SHOULD do it. And of course he's right. Trump doesn't have the power to fire or fine them -- but the owners do. The owners wouldn't let the Cowboys players wear stickers on their helmets to support the five slain Dallas police officers (in accordance with the rules) -- why is one political gesture allowed but another not allowed? And there is indeed a rule in the NFL that says players MUST stand for the national anthem, so fining or firing them would have been perfectly justified under their contract.

As one lawyer pointed out, there is absolutely no guarantee of "free speech" for these players, because the government is not suppressing their speech. Their contract is, the one they entered into of their own free will. Their protests reflect poorly on the image of the NFL and they are under contract, so it's perfectly legal and reasonable to punish them for their errant behavior.

27 posted on 09/26/2017 8:48:19 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: zipper

I’m not speaking of economic stature. I am speaking of a neo-aristocratic class that believes it has rights and you have none. I am speaking of a group that is creating a new politburo in the US.


28 posted on 09/26/2017 8:51:38 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson

Okay. Then they’re members of this class if they join BLM? Or do they need a lot of money too? Or just a lot of media attention? Or does being in the media qualify them for this neo-aristocratic class? I’m curious about what you mean, not disagreeing.


29 posted on 09/26/2017 9:18:34 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: FlipWilson
Maybe what you mean is along the lines of what Savage says:

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AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I HAVE JUST WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT GOD. THERE’S A PASSAGE FROM THE BIBLE I’D LIKE TO QUOTE FOR YOU. IT’S FROM PROVERBS 3:31 AND IT READS, “ENVY THOU NOT THE OPPRESSOR AND CHOOSE NONE OF HIS WAYS.”

TODAY, THE OPPRESSORS ARE THE BULLIES OF THE NFL WHO KNEEL OR HIDE WHEN OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM IS PLAYED, FORCING A CAPTIVE AUDIENCE TO WITNESS THEIR VILE, INSULTING, AND UNINFORMED VIEW OF WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR.

I’LL TELL YOU WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR. WE ARE A NATION IN WHICH NO CITIZEN IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY UNDER THE LAW, REGARDLESS OF THEIR COLOR, RACE, FINANCIAL STATUS, CREED, OR NATION OF ORIGIN. EVEN THESE HYSTERICAL MILLIONAIRES HAVE RIGHTS.

SO I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO DO THE SAME: EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS. TURN OFF YOUR TVS. “DO NOT CHOOSE THE WAYS” OF THE ANARCHISTS, THE IGNORANT, WHETHER THEY TAKE THE FORM OF NEO-NAZIS, ANTIFA…OR PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES.

30 posted on 09/26/2017 9:21:40 AM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: SeekAndFind
Calendar age doesn't mean maturity, but it can be a handy place for perpetual adolescents to hide.

And that's what these discussions feel like and reveal to me: perpetual teenagers trying to rewrite the rules in their own image, while arguing with a strict, but fair father figure who calls them on it.

Too bad the world and the Church didn't pay more attention to the Fatima warnings, but here we are in full rebellion, totally lost in our grand delusion, just a mere 100 years later. D'oh!

When Satan's war on the Holy Father focused on the family father it was only a matter of time before we fell. In fact, the more I think about it, the more surprised I am things are still as sane as they are.

First, Satan took the men to war and killed them off in staggering numbers. No worries. GovCo will save US!

Next, penicillin and birth control gave us consequence-free sex, and, when combined with no fault divorce, the two-parent family, the basic foundational building-block of society, didn't stand a chance. Bye, bye daddy.

No worries. GovCo will save US!

And so it has! GovCo has now successfully removed the Holy Father and His Law from government and our legal morality, and the family father from our homes, our childhoods, our personal histories, our love and our thoughts, and replaced both Father and father and all they offer with itself.

Now the less than obvious question is: who will save US from GovCo?

Answer? The Father, of course. To restore the balance, we must fill in the blank spaces within us and our nation with the necessary but now frequently missing pieces that only the Father and the father have to offer.

Without those vital, essential pieces in place, we as individuals and as a nation remain stuck as perpetual adolescents, neither child nor adult, and thus perpetually lost in an evermore delusional world we've created in our evermore politically correct image.

This won't end well.
(See Romans 1:18-32 for the basic outline, flow chart and details.)

31 posted on 09/26/2017 9:25:02 AM PDT by GBA (A = 432)
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To: JudyinCanada

What will the owners do when their idiot players run their businesses into the ground? Before that happens, maybe a light will turn on in the dim minds of the “protesting” fools as they realize that their million-dollar salaries and endorsement deals might be going bye-bye very soon.


32 posted on 09/26/2017 9:40:53 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: SeekAndFind

Star Spangled Banner As You’ve Never Heard It

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3589262/posts

These kneelers are embarrassing themselves over their ignorance of American history.


33 posted on 09/26/2017 9:44:35 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If most of those players weren’t pampered professional athletes, they’d be playing their games for their various state prison teams.


34 posted on 09/26/2017 10:03:49 AM PDT by euram
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To: Buckeye McFrog

#11 obama started it when campaigning when he stood on a stage and did not salute US flag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o


35 posted on 09/26/2017 11:36:27 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: zipper

Quote: “I’m curious about what you mean, not disagreeing.”

Here is my best stab at an explanation of what I mean:

The elite class has a definite membership group all of whom pray at the feet of the globalist religion. Within that membership group I am sure there is a pecking order but I won’t get into that now.

The membership group is familiar and comprises a neo-aristocray of: 1)white urban elites (who ironically enough decry white privilege and are usually Ivy League educated); 2)so called “open minded” intellectuals who have gained control of the campuses; 3) the industrialists/uber rich who made their money and could care if anyone else does (and don’t want anyone else to for that matter) and who espouse the globalist agenda; 4) actors and Hollywood types; 5) the DC establishment who only do the two party dance as good kabuki theatre; 6) to a limited extent the right kind of jock who really falls within the celebrity class. Usually, the retired jock outlives his usefulness and is cast aside as being lowly; and 7) minorities of sufficient economic background and globalist mindset are admitted to this group.

As for black lives matter, ANTIFA and the rest, they are their useful tools to keep the elites in power. They are in NO WAY elites. BLM and the rest would barely be allowed to mow the lawns of the elites. The elites know they are in a minority and must cobble a voter coalition together to ensure that they can win elections.

BLM and the rest are organizations that serve the purpose of controlling the peasants and whipping them up. Hmmm, where in history have we seen that before? The elite’s “peasants” are groups of government dependent victims (some of the following overlaps) such as African Americans (whose vote is a block and a lock), environmental whacks, snowflakes, the gay community, angry women, the traditional union working class and various other victim groups.

The elite are constantly seeking to expand the government dependent peasant class. This is why they want so many illegals across the border asap. A whole new crop of government dependents. And urgency should be the worry of the elites in this regard and explains why they are truly so fearful of Trump. He is cutting, and threatening to do so even more, the fresh supply of victims. At the same time, the elites are losing their long time victims (except the African Americans) as was demonstrated by the “forgotten man” theme of the last election.

Make NO mistake, the elite have no use for the Constitution and after Trump’s election, probably have no more use for democratic elections. Here they come, here come their storm trooper media to label all those who disagree as being racist, fascist and de facto illegal. Here come the deep state DC elite to execute their coup d’etat via their man Robert Mueller.

In the meantime, Trump disrupted yet another one of their schemes, to turn football into a protest movement and they are none to happy about it. He does not have the privilege of the first amendment. He cannot disrupt the elites who do have that privilege (or whoever the elites delegate the privileges to) and we are witnessing the usual, cries of ‘RACIST!!! RACIST!!! RACIST!!! in response to those who dare think they have the right to take a counter stand.


36 posted on 09/26/2017 12:42:39 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


37 posted on 09/26/2017 2:08:09 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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