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Grover Norquist: Renegade Senators Won’t Hold Up Senate Tax Bill
LifeZette ^ | 11/17/2017 | Brendan Kirby

Posted on 11/17/2017 12:30:13 PM PST by Eddie01

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If Collins and McCain support, it's got to be bad.
1 posted on 11/17/2017 12:30:13 PM PST by Eddie01
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If Collins and McCain support, it's got to be bad.

Probably a big pay off somewhere in that bill.

2 posted on 11/17/2017 12:35:05 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: Eddie01

Yeah right!

I’ll believe it when I see it.

And being realistic about it, if they did take a pass, it just might be the final nail in the coffin of the propriety of this bill.

If they can stomach it, it’s gotta be a real gem of a road apple.


3 posted on 11/17/2017 12:35:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell / Ryan: Why pass Cons legislation when we can pass Leftist legislation for Leftists?)
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To: Eddie01

Maybe BANNON has the scoop on some of their misdeeds. :)


4 posted on 11/17/2017 12:37:29 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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Kabuki time. Who will be the Senate’s “principled” objector this time setting up the McCain “screw the country as long as Trumo is sabotaged” moment.


5 posted on 11/17/2017 12:38:42 PM PST by FlipWilson
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I can tear this tax bill to shreds but I have concluded that we must pass it to save 2018. We can lie about how great it is all year. Then if we win we can start legislative changes and hope to get the massive tax cuts needed for the top 5% that pay the taxers and actually start the growth needed. I do like the Senate killing the pe4nalty tax on obamacare opt outs. and hope that makes it through the conference.I love the fact that we dont allow deduction for the state income taxes , That is wonderful. I am behind what ever we put together for Trumps sake. The Dims just hate that. Screw them.


6 posted on 11/17/2017 12:41:26 PM PST by raiderboy ( "...serving God,s purposeif we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall")
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President Trump will read first or get Lawyers to translate it into English then read it


7 posted on 11/17/2017 12:43:10 PM PST by butlerweave
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“Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) says he will not vote for the bill unless it offers more relief to small-business owners who do not file returns under the corporate tax.”


He actually has a valid point. If you do business as an LLC (which is taxed like a partnership, meaning that the income passes through to the 1040 of each owner), under this bill you get taxed at 25%. If the same business is done within a regular corporation, the maximum tax will be 20%. The disparity is, frankly, unfair.

This could be completely remedied by getting rid of the
corporate tax, and pass through all of the income to the owners - with some flat rate (equal to the highest individual rate) being taxed, and withheld by the company, for charities and foreign companies or citizens.

Alternatively, if they get rid of the “Personal Holding Company” provisions, which penalize people who run a passive business (like real estate, or holding interests in other businesses), then that income could be taxed at corporate rates.

HOWEVER, it is unlikely that any such provisions/compromise will be put into law now. We have to, IMHO, take what we can get now, and push for more equity later. It is a simple matter of “the Perfect is the enemy of the Good.” Let’s take 60% of what we want now, and come back for some part of the other 40% later.


8 posted on 11/17/2017 12:44:07 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Excellent post/analysis - thanks.


9 posted on 11/17/2017 12:45:11 PM PST by Eddie01
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McConnell will find enough no votes from others like Johnson who hate the Trump goals and were just elected to 6 year terms and don’t give a darn what the people want.

We need the Swamp drained.


10 posted on 11/17/2017 12:47:46 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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I’m with you.


11 posted on 11/17/2017 1:04:08 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Eddie01

They need to pass something. Then they can get to reconciliation


12 posted on 11/17/2017 1:05:55 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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So says Grover and his Muzlim wife???


13 posted on 11/17/2017 1:16:02 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Extraordinary acts of God often start with ordinary acts of obedience. P. Yefros)
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Grover Norquist is Cheap Labor Express operative.
He is also married to a muslim.
Not a friend of the citizens.


14 posted on 11/17/2017 1:28:53 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Ancesthntr

In the house bill it Repeals deduction for personal casualty losses except for hurricanes. Also moving expenses except for military. Read the bill it is another ACA.


15 posted on 11/17/2017 1:57:32 PM PST by Don_Ret_USAF ("No Government can survive Without The Trust Of The People.")
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I like Grover. But he's being just a little naive here.
There's not way in hell that McCain, Corker, Flake or Collins will support ANY tax legislation while Trump is president.
16 posted on 11/17/2017 2:02:31 PM PST by LIConFem
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Does Paul and Cotton support it?


17 posted on 11/17/2017 2:21:27 PM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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If the Senate bill passes without SALT deductions then the next election is going to be a bloodbath, count on it. It’s a middle-class tax hike.


18 posted on 11/17/2017 2:28:55 PM PST by Sirloin (Whoosh!)
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Grover Norquist: Renegade Senators Won’t Hold Up Senate Tax Bill

Watch them.

19 posted on 11/17/2017 2:37:39 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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>>under this bill you get taxed at 25%. If the same business is done within a regular corporation, the maximum tax will be 20%. The disparity is, frankly, unfair.<<

Upping of the standard deduction might cover the 5%? It is a personal 1040.

20 posted on 11/17/2017 2:41:33 PM PST by ex91B10
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