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Missing North Carolina girl presumed dead, authorities say
msn ^ | Dec. 2, 2017 | Bradford Betz

Posted on 12/02/2017 5:34:26 AM PST by bgill

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To: leaning conservative

I feel the same way.


41 posted on 12/02/2017 12:22:05 PM PST by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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To: bgill

There has been a massive multi-day search for this child.

When I read “boyfriend” in the earlier articles I suspected what has turned out to be true.


42 posted on 12/02/2017 12:31:59 PM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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They found Mariah’s remains 25 miles from home in a creek.


43 posted on 12/02/2017 4:58:23 PM PST by glenduh
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Yours is not the only story like that. Why is the whole system built to protect the predator?


44 posted on 12/02/2017 6:38:27 PM PST by livius
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I absolutely agree that in many if not most of these incidents, it’s not the caseworkers’ fault. It’s a thankless, poorly paid job. Many of the people who do it are way overqualified and do it because they want to help children.

But in states like NY or here in Florida, many of the case workers in various parts of the state barely speak English (lots of people from Africa and Muslim countries) and don’t have any understanding of societal standards here. Plus their own standards of child care are pretty marginal. So we have had a lot of high profile cases here where deaths resulted because the caseworkers should have reported something but didn’t, or in many cases didn’t actually see the child but said she was okay, and in other cases never even went to the home. So there’s a problem with the system in many states and counties.

But the biggest problem is with the judges and the courts. They’re insane. I have family in law enforcement who have spent months working on cases after they have had had to take an abused child out of the home...and the the courts find the parents guilty, unfit, etc...but say the child must go back to the “home” anyway because this might “help the father readjust to life outside of prison,” or “help the mother get it together after her 50th prostitution arrest,” or some such thing.

My feeling is that we need a good orphanage system once again. Take the kids out of the home and away from danger. When and if the parents get it together, they can come and ask for a review. This, by the way, was how it used to be done, and I actually have two friends who grew up in orphanages and were very happy there and became great productive, happy adults who went through on to raise good families of their own. And another who joined the religious order that ran her orphanage. (These kids weren’t true orphans, btw.; their parents were alive, but the kids had basically been abandoned or in one case taken out of the home because of neglect).


45 posted on 12/02/2017 7:06:25 PM PST by livius
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Bingo. The courts and judges are a huge part of the problem.

There used to be a decades old church run orphanage near here but eventually the state placed so many regulations on it that it closed down. Plus, the state kept sending them out of control juvies instead of regular kids who needed a home.

Blah, off topic - the church gave the entire complex (we’re talking Texas sized ranch land area) to some Katrina trash. It’s on PRIME real estate and not paying taxes because it’s a church. Gripes me to no end. Seriously, the most prime land in the county. It’s much like chaining immigration with them. They build house after house on “church” land and say Uncle Tom, Dick and Devontre are church elders so it’s all tax free.


46 posted on 12/03/2017 6:42:30 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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A major abuse of land use laws, at the very least! NY State has a lot of Hasidic Jewish and Muslim enclaves that do the same, and it’s a serious problem because for some reason they’re very politically powerful.

BTW, there was/is a lot of child abuse occurring in these places, but they have been very successful at keeping investigators out of there.

Right now in Florida, where I live at present, we don’t have any known major problems. However, the Krishnas had a compound in Alachua County, the only leftist county in N Florida, which had a lot of problems Finally, with the implosion of their mother house in NC (I think it was) based on child abuse and weapons charges, they straightened out. But when a cult takes over a space, they completely abuse the religious/non-profit land use privileges.


47 posted on 12/03/2017 9:53:04 AM PST by livius
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The judges may not be completely wrong.

Outcomes for children in long-term foster care are very poor.

The real solution to the problem is making sure that that most children are born to wedded parents, who stay married.


48 posted on 12/03/2017 9:56:56 AM PST by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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