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The Trump tax calculator — will you pay more or less?
Market Watch ^ | 11-29-17 | Steve Goldstein et al

Posted on 12/02/2017 6:36:12 PM PST by RKBA Democrat

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To: Drew68
Do we want to encourage married American couples to have more kids or do we want to import them?

Apparently, the GOP is content watch the fertility rate continue to plummet and just fill the gap with illegals, to absolutely no one's surprise.
61 posted on 12/02/2017 9:25:54 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: RKBA Democrat

....”The Trump tax calculator — will you pay more or less?”....

Less....


62 posted on 12/02/2017 9:30:47 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: Drew68

Americans will know if they were doing better when they see businesses returning from overseas. Unemployment will drop, jobs will be abundant, and opportunities will expand.


63 posted on 12/02/2017 9:32:45 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: CottonBall
Americans will know if they were doing better when they see businesses returning from overseas. Unemployment will drop, jobs will be abundant, and opportunities will expand.

Actually, it's much simpler than that. Americans will know they are doing better when they feel like they have more money, either by actually having more money or by having things cost less.

If it becomes more difficult to make the mortgage payments than it used to be, you'll never convince Americans that they are doing better no matter how many jobs return to our shores.

64 posted on 12/02/2017 9:36:23 PM PST by Drew68
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To: blue state conservative

How does one go about prepaying property tax?


65 posted on 12/02/2017 10:13:12 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: snarkpup

google ‘Navistone’


66 posted on 12/02/2017 10:35:48 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: WildHighlander57

In California property tax is paid in 2 installments—1/2 in December and 1/2 in April. The April installment can be paid in December if you choose and deducted in the same tax year as the regular December payment.


67 posted on 12/02/2017 10:42:34 PM PST by blue state conservative
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To: WildHighlander57

In California property tax is paid in 2 installments—1/2 in December and 1/2 in April. The April installment can be paid in December if you choose and deducted in the same tax year as the regular December payment.


68 posted on 12/02/2017 10:42:47 PM PST by blue state conservative
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To: Antoninus

Trust me, I have NO ISSUE with the child tax credit and agree with your rationale. My point was the refundability part. If it were the credit in general, I would have said “breeding” instead of “breathing”.

But I do know that there are many flat-taxers here who would love to see all incentives for having kids done away with...if you want to have kids, then it’s your problem. The fact that our birthrate, already too low, would be cut in half if we did that, simply cruises over their heads.

As to being refundable, I’d simply rather the incentive for having kids be favored towards net taxpayers, as I think they make more responsible parents.


69 posted on 12/03/2017 1:30:00 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

People had plenty of children before 1913, so: Repeal the 16th Amendment.


70 posted on 12/03/2017 1:40:34 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/hj3e8cKZWiY)
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To: Arthur McGowan

This ain’t 1913 anymore, when kids were looked at as a needed asset to families, for both labor and old age. Both of those incentives are gone now.

Now kids are a considered not much more than a parasite, at least by FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE...which is why they’re barely having kids now, even with the many incentives.


71 posted on 12/03/2017 2:32:45 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: tech_rjmarce1

I would suggest using the Adjusted Gross Income amount from your tax return. That amount will have already applied any 401k contributions or pretax adjustments.


72 posted on 12/03/2017 3:41:45 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: Nicojones

That one is better since it also gives current taxes to contrast with the bills. We would get at least $100/month advantage.


73 posted on 12/03/2017 3:58:15 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Drew68

when they lose money, they take notice.

so do you pay zero taxes and lost a refund of non refundable tax credits?


74 posted on 12/03/2017 4:00:56 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: RKBA Democrat

These plans absolutely slam anyone without kids. There’s no way around it.

You get the higher standard deduction, but lose the personal exemption. Then are far less likely to be able to itemize deductions on top of that, including with state and local taxes.

Meanwhile, along with all the new and expanded kiddo credits, Jivanka’s millionaire Manhattan and DC friends will get potentially massive new savings as we all subsidize their sending their kiddos to crazy-expensive private schools.

Ho ho ho—Merry Christmas, suckers!


75 posted on 12/03/2017 4:10:02 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Nicojones

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76 posted on 12/03/2017 4:16:00 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: RKBA Democrat

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77 posted on 12/03/2017 4:17:01 AM PST by AmericanMade
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To: All

MarketWatch I believe is CBS...

You’ve all been played.

The vast majority of people are getting tax cuts...

The Tax Foundation has a chart that covers about 15 scenarios.


78 posted on 12/03/2017 4:25:31 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan conservative: All 3 Pillars)
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To: rbmillerjr

Most people are getting tax cuts. One question I have to wonder is whether people realize that what they put into the calculator is their AGI, not their gross salary.

I ran the numbers both with and without the calculator and the difference in the amounts was negligible. I see a very healthy tax cut.


79 posted on 12/03/2017 4:48:29 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Because I am close to retirement, I am socking away all I can into 401k. Because of that, I will get a huge refund under this plan.


80 posted on 12/03/2017 5:04:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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