Posted on 12/17/2017 11:34:54 AM PST by x1stcav
As for the journalist for the article you supplied, I already told you that piece was not investigative journalism: it was a report from a police operation. Big difference. But no journalist is going to poke around in that colonia looking for a MS-13 link to a triple murder, which was essentially an internal enforcement hit. The fact that there has not been an article since ...kinda bares that out.
Better yet. Why don't you go down there and poke around, and ask questions as a free lance? It'd be a hoot. I'll get you some facts from my niece (yeah, the one who works for the Attorney General) and we'll wind your ass up and get you started. Check into the Maya Hotel in Tegucigalpa, and I'll have a list of 10 facts not previously printed in the media, and have it sent to the front desk.
The command and control of MS-13 is not a pyramid structure. There is no "one" leader, and they do not have absolute control over other sets. It's decentralized. You act like it's IBM. It is a confederation that acts collaboratively when it is in the best interests of each party, unless an order comes from a founder, and even then....it isn't precise. La 18 is the same way, but far less brutal.
I don't need translator software- I speak Spanish and I wasn't using the article as the only source. I am not dependent on any article as you are. I told you things that are NOT in the article because the journalist left obvious follow-up questions out. He is addicted to oxygen. When an entire community will not step forward, that is what we call in the intelligence field.....an INDICATOR of how much influence an organization has over turf.
And that is the end of the issue.
It was published by the same exact media source. That would be the target. No?
It was published by the same exact media source. That would be the target. No?
The true insight is people down there are oppressed by their own government and their own people. Not my fault. And according to you, your two cousins were apparently MS-13 members or former MS-13 members. They reason I have no sympathy is because they've imported their way of life to my country. Get it?
Once again, if they catch them, unless they've committed additional crime on U.S. soil, and are not wanted for previous crimes here, deport them. If not, they go to the joint or are killed in the process.
And btw, its a bit odd that some who's worked in intelligence for 30 years would broadcast all this information about these types of relationships.
I was using the article you provided as basis for my comment. And when I asked to see documentation, you stated, "You speak Spanish dickhead?" I had to explain to you it's easily translated to English on the Internet. Surprise! And you speaking Spanish does not impress me. When you speak 7 or more languages I might be impressed.
I am unfamiliar with any MS-13 member that has not committed multiple offenses. You RICO them, and open up cooperation to take down the syndicate, make it incredibly unattractive to join, and you put the hardcore members away. You are approaching it from a standard illegal alien standpoint. It isn't. It will take a disciplined, national effort to root them out.
Please don't opine on government oppression "down there." You already proved you see the world through Kansas eyes. Obama did more to oppress Hondurans than any of the two major parties in the last 20 years. And BTW, it was the people who freely elected the FMLN in power in El Sal, and Honduras freely elected Zelaya. What is this oppression "down there" you speak of? You have major cultural and geopolitical intelligence gaps.
I sent you the article in good faith. I didn't vouch for every other detail-- because I know more truth than what the article states. In fact, I never read the article before. Why would I? We dealt with it as a family, and sent cash for the funerals. The article doesn't offer anything other than they were killed together after being lured there by the kidnapping of their friend (yes, it affected more than one family- and in barrio life, everyone knows everyone). And not one stepped forward. You are the one that had so much distrust and wanted to see an article, so I obliged.
Typical American, you've been watching too many movies. And it shows. There is nothing secret about working in intelligence. I'm not a case officer. I tell people directly what I do-- there is nothing to hide. The government of Honduras is well aware I'm in intel. And several other countries for that matter. What are they going to do about it? Not a damn thing.
The difference between us is I live in the real world with real experience. You live in a fantasy constructed by ignorance.
No problem. If that is all you got them on them when they're picked up, deport them. No problem at all. And as far as it not doing any good deporting these people, no sale. Most all those people are cataloged, they know they're extended families, associates, friends, girlfriends etc on the U.S. side of the border. If they want to do the gangs bidding once most of them are deported, they too will pay a big price.
And you speak as if this is something new. There have been lots of issues here with these little criminal for years . If you're ignorant enough to think the Trump years are going to be a boon for MS13 in the U.S., I can't help ya.
It's right there in Wikipedia...lol
The LA Times, really?☺
And the bottom line is once we deport most of them, it’ll be their problem again. If they think they can get some old friends to do their bidding up here, they too will be dealt with because they’re likely already known associates.
Can all crime be stopped? No. But you can sure as hell put a dent in it. Just watch what happens during the Trump years. These AH’s have been coddled. That’s over slick.
They get shot.
Brand their foreheads with a “shoot me” note and send them back - if they come back, ........
Actually, if it truly was a Chain Gang, once that chain got entangled in the kudzu, no one would ever escape! Have just one guard to shoot anyone tying to bring them a hacksaw and you're all set.
Notice the group of chain gang prisoners in the center foreground of this photo. They stopped for a lunch break. This photo was taken three hours later. /S
.
Said the master of juvenile jabber!
.
Its the southern version of Lots wife.
Smelly kudzu-eating bug invades Alabama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2658403/posts
Has Help arrived? No! It also likes field crops.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.