Posted on 12/31/2017 4:51:56 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
Simple? I don't see mass murder as simple.
This video shows some kind of odd light from inside the building 15 minutes before the attack. It was not a reflection.
This video shows something took place in the rooms above paddocks room before the attack. The question is what took place?
Now the coroner is claiming Paddock committed suicide. The weapon that was used to kill him was moved to where it ended up. It wasn't dropped as though he shot himself and then dropped to the ground.
Look at the blood drops they're not angular as though it was dropped (moved fast.) They're round drops of blood as though the weapon was moved slowly and placed there.
The picture also shows a impact to the chest and blood moving down his chest as though he was setting upright when that chest wound took place.
This reminds me of Gary Webb where he shot himself twice in the head with two different weapons. Then one of the weapons was thrown into a near by lake.
Nothing about the two Paddock death pics, makes sense, from a he committed suicide standpoint. The position of his body, as well as the three(3) guns in close proximity to his body don’t make any sense. His body is flat on his back, legs straight, and arms straight along his sides. Handgun is 11/2 -2 feet above his head, one Ar is upright on its bipod feet, straddling his leg, the second Ar lying sideways also by his feet. Not really sure what position his body was in when “he” shot himself; sitting on his butt,legs extended straight (with one of them between the bipod legs), laying down all the way( and his arms are straight along his sides, and the handgun is above his head), certainly not standing( how would his leg get between the bipod) Those two photos just don’t make any sense.
Totally agree
Using a little imagination, it seems possible.
If he was standing, with the rifle butt leaning against his chest as he shot himself in the head, the rifle could have fallen astride his one foot as he fell backwards.
or, maybe someone moved the rifle/rifles and/or revolver when they found him. We do not know if anything in the scene was moved before the picture was taken.
No provenance of the picture is given. We do not know at what time during the investigation it was taken. We do not have any notes from the investigators.
Then how did the pistol that he shot himself get above his head?
Pistols people shoot themselves with are found away from the body in roughly 10% of cases.
Of course, there is always the possibility that one of the investigators moved it before this picture was taken. We do not know the provenance of the picture.
First, let preface my reply by saying your last 5 sentences in your post are the most important. We do not know the provenance of the photos and wether the crime scene was altered. That’s obviously extremely important in the investigation. Having said that, looking at those two pics, of hopefully an unaltered crime scene, I don’t see how he committed suicide. Your theory he could have been standing when he shot himself, falling in a perfect supino prone position, and the AR falls to land upright on its bipod (and its a short bipod) feet straddling his shin area, I don’t see it. The clean .223 casings in the blood is a little bothersome also. Who knows, we may never know like a lot of things. I just don’t think this thing is what we’re being told. Anyways, whatever the cause , it’s just so bad so many people had to die, God rest their souls.
You are correct about how much we do not know. I suspect the blood draining from his head could pool around the caseings.
It should be easy to experiment on that with some similar carpet.
The Sheriff completely botched the public relations aspect of this investigation. He simply was not up to it. I sympathize with him.
It appears that the casinos have put a kibosh on media coverage, likely afraid of fuel for lawsuits.
All of the evidence should be released.
But, if the conspiracy speculation is correct, there would be good reason to keep evidence under wraps while you investigate. Kind of a catch-22.
As far the pistol we do. It had blood on it which means if anyone touched it after it was placed there you would see it was moved.
Why do you defend this worthless investigation? really?
As far the pistol we do. It had blood on it which means if anyone touched it after it was placed there you would see it was moved.
I am not defending the investigation. I am merely pointing out bad reasoning and assumptions.
I find it fascinating that there is a lot we do not know, and people seem compelled to come up with complex scenarios to explain things, when simple scenarios will work as well or better.
Said, "Pistols with blood on can be moved."
Not without noticing it was moved.
This was a softball question I gave you and your answer was, "it could've been moved."
HOW? Did the cop come in notice guy's head blown off and felt the need to move the weapon away? Did the cop that moved the weapon think he was still a threat?
Not logical.
said, "simple scenarios will work as well or better"
I'm listening. Why was the weapon moved?
I’m listening. Why was the weapon moved?
I was not there, so I do not know. Maybe the photographer already had pictures of the revolver in Paddock’s hand, on his chest, and wanted a picture of Paddock with his chest showing.
Maybe a responder noted the gun in Paddock’s hand after pictures were started, and reacted with the instinct to make sure subjects are disarmed.
Maybe someone wanted the serial number, but did not have an evidence bag to put the pistol in.
There are an infinite number of possibilities.
We lack so much knowledge that it is impossible to recreate what happened from the small number of pictures we have access to.
As for moving the pistol without smudging the blood, and old trick is to put a pencil in the barrel, and move it with that.
I am not saying that happened. I am illustrating the infinity of possibilities.
Life, reality, are not bound by our limited logic.
Sherlock Holmes is a fantasy.
said, "There are an infinite number of possibilities"
Which is it? The simplest scenario or the infinite possibilities?
It can't be both.
22,000 hours of video secured; FBI won’t release reports til 10/2018
500 worldwide investigative leads;
500 grand jury subpoenas issued
Only one bad guy.
Every organization even in government has it's purpose.
What is the purpose of the FBI?
What is it's business today?
Why does it exist?
The Nine Most Terrifying Words
I'm with Reagan on this one.
$hithouse rat crazy doesn’t need a reason.
No proof of that. Guy brought his weapons into the hotel to keep them from being stolen out of his truck. Then went to the bar and tied one on. Stupid? YES! Murder plot? No.
Problem with that is that a Vegas hotel is the worst place for 200 miles in any direction to do a gun deal. There are many places within 15 minutes of the MB where you could do a gun deal and be gone in minutes. No muss no fuss.
said, “simple scenarios will work as well or better”
said, “There are an infinite number of possibilities”
Which is it? The simplest scenario or the infinite possibilities?
It can’t be both.
Sure it can. You are being obtuse. There are both infinite possibilities and, among them, simple scenarios.
You pick the simplest of the infinite possibilities.
We know ETS a Saudi based security company whom protects the Saudi family was in Las Vegas that night. They also set up a seminar a week later.
Why where they there early is the question?
We know by the strange light flashing that there was something that took place in the hotel room where the Saudi Family stays 15 minutes before the attack.
This company is the Saudi equivalent to Academi (new Name of Blackwater security)
They're private military.
https://www.ets-riskmanagement.com/
We know they purchased the "pee-pee"(golden showers) dossier to frame Trump. Why do we "need" to believe him now?
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