Posted on 01/01/2018 6:38:42 AM PST by Kaslin
Link, please.
:-)
No link at hand. Go research. I was an USAF space system specialist and work with the program.
It appears that the 50+ year continuous record from the DMSP satellites may be at risk.
From Wiki:
"2016 failure of DMSP 19 without replacement
"On 11 February 2016, a power failure left both the command-and-control subsystem and its backup without the ability to reach the satellite’s processor, according to the US Air Force Space Command investigation released in July 2016 that also announced that DMSP 5D-3/F19 was considered to be ‘lost’. The satellite's data can still be used, until it ceases pointing the sensors towards the Earth. The satellite was the most recent on-orbit, having been launched on 3 April 2014.[8]
"The failure only left F16, F17 and F18 – all significantly past their expected 3–5 year lifespan – operational. F19’s planned replacement was not carried out because Congress ordered the destruction of the already constructed F20 probe to save money by not having to pay its storage costs. It is unlikely that a new DMSP satellite would be launched before 2023; by then the three remaining satellites should no longer be operational."
DMSP has always been at risk. It started a classified USAF program to hide its budget and development from NASA who had a weather satellite program but was mired in bureaucracy and way behind schedule and capabilities. The military needed a weather satellite to support other programs and created a small bird that worked at very low cost.
Once it became known in the 1970’s and NASA was a participant, it grew to a multi ton 7-meter long vehicle; a mouse the size of an elephant designed by a committee.
NASA’s involvement kept the USAF from launching more birds and by 1979 we had but one and it was limping along.
A newer polar orbiting program was recently canceled after billions were spent because of the same issue of political infighting by NASA.
NASA: Need Another Space Agency, because this one ain’t working.
“NASA: Need Another Space Agency, because this one ain’t working.”
True, I look at it this way:
NASA has spent soo much time and money on global warming, our space exploration, space research/ defense have taken a huge hit, jeopardizing National Security.
If our enemies were to infiltrate NASA, they would undermine it by creating and spending all kinds of money on useless, feckless, hapless wasteful programs that further no space technology or advancement...
...that’s just what we’ve got now.
So any further climate study is a threat to our National Security.
Wow. Where’s that from?
Can you explain that statement in more detail for those of us who haven't had a college math course in 40 years?
Thanks.
Linear means that the graphical relationship presents as a straight line. There’s nothing that says the plotted change in temperature should result in a straight line rate of change in temperature over the intervening years. That would be illogical based on the warmists theories anyway, because the fluctuation in the chemicals in the atmosphere certainly hasn’t been constant, but has been changing throughout time. So why would the temperature rate of change present as a constant rate of temperature change per year? That’s but one of the fallacies of their arguments.
LOL!
My step-brother was the former Director of NASA’s Earth Science Program, and later, the Director of the Mars Program.
I barely knew him, and have not seen him since the 1980s, so I have no personal feelings at stake here.
He's a former Navy pilot, so I'd be very surprised if he had any anti-military bias. Of course, he also had strong institutional feelings about NASA, and he was definitely a “Company Man.”
Final question - is any of the DMSP weather data publicly available, or is it classified?
That data would be a valuable counter-weight to NASA’s algorithms.
For illumination, I obtained the local temperature data from NOAA
I plotted the daily highs and the lows over the winter for several years. I also plotted the daily historical average .
There is wild variation from day to day. the monthly plots for each year also showed variation for any gien day.
The average temps approach a linear condition but with a slight downward curve into January and february returning upward in March.
Too funny!
Some of it is unclassified, but I caution that what is publicly available has been controlled by NASA and is possibly not the raw data anymore.
As far as your bro, it isn’t a matter of pro or anti military. It is “my project funding” versus “their project funding”.
Thanks for the link.
I’ve found a few dead links to the data, but nothing functioning except for nighttime lights.
I have no formal training in statistics.
To my eye, the main issue here is that NASA’s historical data on temperature anomalies - all the way back to 1880 - can be altered by new anomaly data entered in 2017.
How does that happen?
If the historical anomaly data is not permanent, why is it important, why do we even bother to preserve it?
Good point.
Apparently it is past time to do monthly archives of the “current” data. Wonder if the wayback machine has past data?
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