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Gibson Guitars Faces Bankruptcy After Years of Federal Attacks
mrctv.org ^ | 2/21/2018 | P. Gardner Goldsmith

Posted on 02/24/2018 7:23:02 AM PST by rktman

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To: Yardstick

Hopefully not the same sort of fiasco cbs did with Fender.


21 posted on 02/24/2018 7:52:22 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman

That raid was abusive, and I can’t say there was something legitimate behind it.

However, the sums and damages cited are not of a scale that five years later would cause a default on a half billion dollars of debt that comes due within a 7 day period. That seems more like a company that spent too much money with too low a return over a long period of time.

The guitars will still be made, the company will survive out of BK, the debt holders will write down some of this money, and Henry J. may retire, I would guess.


22 posted on 02/24/2018 7:53:51 AM PST by babble-on (Aqua Paludis => Swamp Water)
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To: rktman

Trump needs to step in and save Gibson Guitars, just another Obomba political attack.

Goddamn that bastard!


23 posted on 02/24/2018 7:54:02 AM PST by Gasshog ( Fight climate change - Try beating the air and scream at the sky)
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To: bk1000; babble-on
As a music store owner and guitar tech, I can tell you that Gibson quality has been inconsisitent for years. It has been pretty widely discussed on gear pages and YouTube. I see many recent year LPs and SGs come in to my shop with horrid fret edges, bad neck angles, incorrect bridge placement, finish issues, etc.

I met Gibson CEO Henry Juszkiewicz at the '98 NAMM show and walked away amazed at what a narcissistic jerk he was. The next year, I dropped the line due to incessant quality control issues, overpricing, and unrealistic inventory requirements.

There is a lot more to this than just rosewood confiscation.

24 posted on 02/24/2018 8:02:04 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: rktman

Yes, the feral grubbermint is a very real problem for Gibson but so is their CEO Henry Juszkiewicz.

Juszkiewicz mgmt philosphy has completely ignored their customer base gearing the company toward building ‘innovative’ new guitars.

Innovation is not what guitar players want or expect from Gibson.

What they want, and what Gibson can provide at the prices they’re charging, is Exact replicas of Gibson production from the 1950s.

They are not interested in Chinese made crap with innovative tuning gears on them that tune the guitar for you.

It’s so bad there’s actually a name for Gibson’s top dollar, phony, imported “made in the USA” copies from China.

Players are furious at being charged $4K or more for a “Chibson”.

Their Epiphone brand used to be the low end, low cost look alikes.

Today it’s considered a better made instrument than the real thing.


25 posted on 02/24/2018 8:10:42 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“I think Gibson is really facing bankruptcy because they are trying too hard to sell $500.00 guitars for $4,000.00”

Many other competitors are using China to manufacture. The low end is gone.


26 posted on 02/24/2018 8:11:37 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Barron Trump, time-traveling back from the future, to help his dad fight the deep state.)
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27 posted on 02/24/2018 8:16:08 AM PST by Liz ( Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: rktman

Why would you even consider any Gibson, when you could have a Strat?


28 posted on 02/24/2018 8:16:28 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Electric guitars made by World Musical Instruments in South Korea (PRS SE, Michael Kelly, ESP) are of amazing quality and can be had for well under $1000.


29 posted on 02/24/2018 8:16:54 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: rktman

Tweeted DT. Occasionally he looks at my tweets and Don, Jr. follows.


30 posted on 02/24/2018 8:22:57 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: rktman

Gibson’s real problem is that their higher end guitars are made in the USA and involve a lot of hand labor. Fine guitars they are, but the ever increasing prices mean fewer and fewer people can afford them.


31 posted on 02/24/2018 8:24:43 AM PST by Stevenc131
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To: Yardstick
Guitar forum liberals hate Henry Juszkiewicz just like they hate Donald Trump. It’s Henry derangement syndrome out the wazoo.

Henry J. is not without his faults. He forced a bunch of crap nobody wanted like his robo-tuners fiasco and then forced dealers to stock the shelves with them. He pulled authorized distributions away from a lot of mom and pop stores, essentially putting them out of business, for not playing ball. Prime example; Center City Music in San Diego had a thriving business selling nothing but Historic-collection Les Pauls, and for prices significantly less than GC/MF/SA. The owner didn't want to hang a bunch of robo-tuner garbage on his walls so Henry pulled his license. This means no more warranties.

Henry J. did a lot of great things for Gibson. Gibson Guitars today are putting out the best instruments they've ever made (if you're willing to pay Custom Shop prices for them). A problem however is, Gibson players don't want much innovation. They want the classic guitars that were made during the Ted McCarty era. They don't want robo-tuners. They want sunburst Les Paul Standards, black Les Paul Customs, and wine red 335s and SGs. They want them made to McCarty-era specs and sold at inflation-rated prices.

And there's fewer and fewer of this demographic each year.

32 posted on 02/24/2018 8:26:14 AM PST by Drew68
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; BTerclinger; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks rktman. Gibson was one of the companies that refused Obama's shakedown, and has been under attack ever since. An FR search should turn up more info.

33 posted on 02/24/2018 8:26:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Why would you even consider any Gibson, when you could have a Strat?

Because of the magnetic inductance from Fenders 3 single coil pickups pulling the basses in different directions at the same time, causing all manner of out of tune harmonics to run up and down the strings.

That’s why.


34 posted on 02/24/2018 8:28:35 AM PST by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Why would you even consider any Gibson, when you could have a Strat?

That's like saying why would you use red paint when you could use green paint or why would you drive a Tacoma when you could drive a Mustang? You have both.

Gibsons and Fenders make entirely different guitars.

35 posted on 02/24/2018 8:29:02 AM PST by Drew68
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To: rktman

It’s not the federal attacks. It’s Henry Juszkiewicz. The quality sucks while prices are sky high. There are defective truss rods in their electric guitars and the company knows it, but won’t change them because it would open them up to a lot of warranty claims. The guy who does all my guitar work here in Nashville tells me they have a large warehouse of nothing but “returned” acoustic guitars at their Bozeman, Montana facility. The quality that used to be in Gibsons is now over in their Epiphone Division which is under different leadership. The “politics” of this problem are not the great factor people are being led to believe here.


36 posted on 02/24/2018 8:31:18 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Right Brother

I prefer my US made Gibson Les Paul, myself.
(Followed closely by my 3 US made banjos, a US made dobro and *then* my foreign made Epiphone accoustic guitar.)


37 posted on 02/24/2018 8:32:10 AM PST by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I think Gibson is really facing bankruptcy because they are trying too hard to sell $500.00 guitars for $4,000.00. The quality they were known for in previous decades just isn’t there any more.

The quality is still there. Gibson players don't want PRS or Kiesel guitars. Those aren't what Jimmy Page played. They want Les Pauls.

Gibson's biggest competitor are used Gibsons. If Henry J. could figure out how to keep them off the market, he would.

It's about to get even worse. Wait until these Baby Boomers start dropping like flies and "dad's old guitar that I never learned how to play" wind up all over Craigslist and eBay for half the cost of a new one.

38 posted on 02/24/2018 8:34:45 AM PST by Drew68
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To: rktman

Aka ‘Chibson’

I hear the fit and finish are very good, wood is mahogany,maple tops are thick with the right supplier/maker.
Swap out the pick-ups and pots and voila, 3,000.00 Gibson.


39 posted on 02/24/2018 8:37:43 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I have my dad’s old Gibson acoustic. He took it with him in the Army during WWII. Sounds beautiful even with the little crack it has in the wood. He bought it used for like $8.


40 posted on 02/24/2018 8:41:24 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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