Posted on 02/24/2018 6:11:59 PM PST by Simon Green
What good would this do when the the leftists running the school system, the police department, the local government have signed agreements which state that a long list of crimes will not be reported to the police or action taken by the schools (such as Broward County). The policy to “break the pipeline from school to prison” gets people killed.
All the progressives will need to do then is declare the groups of people that they call enemies to all be crazy for “Wrong Think” and round them up.
Dear God, what is Trump trying to do, start a civil war? Some liberal judge will start declaring all gun owners mentally incompetent, and start the confiscation orders. People are going to die. The oathbreaking police, first, probably.
Who can stop a liberal judge from ruling at all Trump supporters are insane and need to have their guns confiscated? You are aiding and abetting the gun grabbers.
Yeah, that would be a dangerous precedent.
If true he is just trying to corner the dems.
Dems want the issue, not any possible fixes.
What the SOBs want the most is more massacres!!!
WHAT STATES HAVE RED FLAG LAWS?
just wondering..if you know, could you share?
Remember who your base is Mr President. We did not support Hillary just this reason in this subject area. You have struggled to get to 50% approval, don’t blow it now.
Expanding government is not the answer. The question should be why did this happen to fall through the net of every pillar of society from his caretakers, school, medicine and law enforcement etc? The system should have worked. The system was let to fail and/or the incompetence was the accessory to capital murder. I pity Cruz and what he chose to do with his life and I hope he goes to Hell and ALL who failed to protect these children to see full consequences. Liberals need to also FOAD because they dream of the next bloodbath when this fades away.
Exactly. I would venture to guess that most leftist judges believe that, “No sane person,” would want an AR-15 in their home, ergo, any person who has one would be deemed incompetent to keep one. This is a very slippery, and very dangerous slope.
>>Persons with a propensity to violence would not be allowed to own guns. This doesn’t infringe on any one else’s rights.<<
What would be the legal basis for determining a gun owner’s propensity to violence?
No one wants guns in the hands of unstable crazies. ...But suppose a law is passed dictating that law-abiding citizens who have no criminal record nevertheless cannot be permitted to own or carry firearms due to their mental instability. Who gets to decide who the crazies are? What standard would they use to determine that and what safeguards and recourse would there be against the abuse of such a law?
That’s the slippery slope. I don’t think that such a law could be passed that wouldn’t be routinely abused shortly after its passage. Political opponents would be targeted and the odd nut who steals their politically-correct relative’s firearm to go on a shooting spree would get around it.
California’s laws allow the cops to do it without a court order, based on behavior and the testimony of friends and family.
It’s for 72hours.
After that, YOU have to prove you can have them safely.
It’s not Constitutional. But they’ll do it anyway.
They are sort of like of temporary protection orders.
Banning guns takes away every one’s rights. Its overkill in additional to being unconstitutional, I would never support gun confiscation.
On the other hand, taking away a firearm from a person who is a threat deals only with that person. Its in line with the kind of restrictions on firearms ownership the SCOTUS has said state may impose.
They must be crafted to protect public safety without infringing on the individual RKBA. I prefer narrow solutions to broad ones. Small changes affect liberty far less than large changes do.
If we have to do something, quite frankly dealing with the actual problem is a lot more fair than treating law-abiding gun owners like they’re criminals.
“What should be the red flag is a Democrat voter registration”
YES. Don’t get this at all!!!!!
I’m active politically local here in the Peoples Republic of Maryland and at every meeting I go to I ask about voter rolls. All I get is the dear-in-the-headlights look. Drives me nuts!
Seriously....relax....let it play out. Stay vigilant, but let it play out.
Ok Ruskie...you really think Trump is wanting to do this? Where have you been since June 16, 2015
Correction!
A Judge still has to issue the order, but it’s based on unproven assertions by family or cops.
Dear?
I can say from experience that however well- intentioned, this will lead to a decrease in people seeking professional help. The stigma associated with mental illness and even counseling runs deep already. The armed services and those who have clearances already avoid seeking help because they fear losing their jobs. The VA already started down this path with horrible results and Trump just repealed the directives.
Common sense would indicate that such a policy would be beneficial, but the extreme leftist perspective of the entire mental health profession ensures it would be a totalitarian putsch from the get-go. These people refuse to even classify obvious mental illness, yet they emphatically condemn any hint of patriotism, morality or religion (except Islam) as dangerous. It’s ridiculous that school children can identify those who are dangerous, but professionals can no longer understand even basic biology.
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