Posted on 03/14/2018 6:45:42 PM PDT by artichokegrower
Glad you are enjoying your retirement.
But #94 you state: My point is not complicated. IMPORTING WORKERS ON A TEMPORARY VISA IS A GOOD THING.
That is more than standing up for low paid H1-B Visa workers...That is approving of the H-1B system, its policies, and its results—and the spousal Visa program as well.
“Not their fault they are here”? Uh it is their CHOICE to come here...They take cheap-online courses in India and eagerly apply for Visas, and do whatever it takes to get here...
As I stated before, This situation hurts US tech professionals. They don’t have unions or citizenship requirements protecting their jobs. And in many of the areas of tech such as coding, the H-1B Visa workers are victims as much as US professionals who have been displaced or had wages reduced because they are working for considerably less and don’t have flexibility to change companies.
When you say importing cheap workers is a good idea, truly, the blame does not lie with globalist politicians and mega rich donors entirely...Your comment would indicate that you approve of the system...
I agree with your stance on influx of chain immigrants—system threatens our country and your future —Social Security, budget deficits, inflation, etc...
Well, I feel the same way about the influx of foreign tech workers...it has an impact on our country and my future, however, I just don’t think you will ever be able to see my point of view, and that could be for a variety of reasons..
You support H-1B Visa programs and spousal Visa programs. I don’t. We will never agree.
No, it does not hurt US Technical workers because actually there is a critical shortage of qualified Engineers bin United States. It takes minimum 10-15 years between education and practical experience to develop a crackerjack engineer.
Majority of H1-B visa workers are computer programmers. It is a much shorter period to train as a computer programmer. Which is why there is a surplus of such workers. The companies which import H1-B visa benefit by being able to compete in global markets. If a protectionist law was passed to prohibit that, those companies can easily set up shop abroad. Because IT is extremely portable via WWWeb.
No, it does not hurt US Technical workers because actually there is a critical shortage of qualified Engineers bin United States. It takes minimum 10-15 years between education and practical experience to develop a crackerjack engineer.
Majority of H1-B visa workers are computer programmers. It is a much shorter period to train as a computer programmer. Which is why there is a surplus of such workers. The companies which import H1-B visa benefit by being able to compete in global markets. If a protectionist law was passed to prohibit that, those companies can easily set up shop abroad. Because IT is extremely portable via WWWeb.
Fixed it.
No, it does not hurt US Technical workers because actually there is a critical shortage of qualified Engineers bin United States. It takes minimum 10-15 years between education and practical experience to develop a crackerjack engineer.
Majority of H1-B visa workers are computer programmers. It is a much shorter period to train as a computer programmer. Which is why there is a surplus of such workers. The companies which import H1-B visa benefit by being able to compete in global markets. If a protectionist law was passed to prohibit that, those companies can easily set up shop abroad. Because IT is extremely portable via WWWeb.
Again, no idea what you are trying to say about how a shortage of engineers makes H-1B visa displacement of computer programmers, analysts, data scientists, etc. not hurt US tech workers...As I said before, you are comparing apples to oranges. Engineers and IT professionals are not the same field...
Do you trade Infosys stock or something? Seriously, every post you just double down more on how wonderful H-1B Visa industry is, but it is not—except for the globalists... which begs the question why?
Regardless, if you read my posts, I pointed out that the majority of H-1B Visa holders are programmers and that India trains them with cheap online software programs because they cannot invest in state-of-art hardware equipment...
The laws are being abused, and everyone turns a blind eye, deaf ear...Ironic that H-1B Visa holders are SUPPOSED to be brought in for highly skilled positions that cannot be filled by US professionals, yet they end up replacing US workers and US workers train them—and you think this is good because it keeps the workers in US...Huh? Impact of H-1B workers on Tech professional wages already discussed at length in one of several previous posts.
Of course since India cannot train massive amounts of cheap labor on hardware because state-of-art hardware is expensive and requires on-site participation, hardware professionals and engineers are protected from the onslaught of cheap foreign labor.
Regardless, whatever perceived yet undocumented shortage you feel exits in the engineering field, it has nothing to do with what is happening with many in IT professionals. This thread was about or what is impacting most tech professionals... and how our government is protecting spouses of H-1B workers.
As far as justification of H-1B workers being threats of companies going offshore if they are not allowed to bring in indentured H-1B workers, they have been threatening to do that over the past 20+ years—and some have already have gone offshore and do work on WWWeb as you call it,
yet there are still tech professionals here.
Actually, I may know a little more about this than you do (unless you work for Infosys or Tata) as I have friends and relatives working in San Jose....US corporations want/need to have a presence in San Jose, so I think that is somewhat of an empty threat. They are not going to displace 100% of their workforce to India. They won’t even relocate to Nevada because they like California and West Coast, the private investors and brainpower that Stanford and Berkley provide.
Clearly you are supporting globalists...altho I am truly surprised that you are sharing such strong beliefs here.
Clearly you are not going to change your opinion nor I mine.
Enjoy your golf.
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