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Oklahoma teachers go on strike and rally at state Capitol
https://www.yahoo.com ^ | 04/02/2018 | unknown

Posted on 04/02/2018 8:00:07 PM PDT by BackRoads775

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To: Architect of Avalon

“Close all public schools and send the students to private schools.”


Easier said than done.

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41 posted on 04/02/2018 9:22:32 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

The mechanisms involved are easy to implement.

The willingness of politicians to proceed with that implementation is the problem.


42 posted on 04/02/2018 9:31:41 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Sequoyah101

If I hit the Power ball I will be walking 3-5 Hyenas simultaneously.


43 posted on 04/02/2018 9:38:27 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: Rome2000

Please keep them on a chain and have them litter box trained.


44 posted on 04/02/2018 9:43:47 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: AFret.

If you think public schoolteachers in other areas are different. ...
you haven’t met many of them.


45 posted on 04/02/2018 9:53:43 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: BackRoads775

Check my math, but if $6,ooo is 15% of the current rate, they will go from about $38,000 to about $44,000. In Seattle, where I live, that would be a marginal income. I know Oklahoma has a lower cost of living, but that still isn’t a very healthy income.


46 posted on 04/02/2018 9:53:48 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: nevermorelenore

It is mostly day care. Literally speaking 1 person could teach millions these days. But each mind is different and some people learn at different paces or through alternate explanations. But that’s OK because 2 million people can teach 1 million people these days. If you think about it the way we teach kids hasn’t changed much in at least 100 years. The world has changed incredibly. It was designed to churn out future factory workers in a world that, by the time those born today graduate, will have seen millions or tens of millions of jobs disappear - transportation jobs, factory jobs, warehouse jobs, food preparation jobs etc are all going to vanish to automation, self-driving cars, robotic burger makers etc.

While I wouldn’t necessarily abolish school buildings, school systems and even ‘teachers’ are anachronistic. Education is a process, you need a certain foundation upon which additional knowledge is layered. Kids need some facilitation and direction. The current method requires they respond to the sounds of bells and sit arranged in neat little rows that discourages interaction, when they would learn a lot more if they could help each other peel away the layers of a subect. The current method of learning has a lot of starting and stopping and switching of topics many times in a day when real learning requires time dedicated to delve into a topic.

At the end of the day if we want a truly brilliant generation then they have to learn how to learn at an earlier age. That won’t happen in the very stifling environment that our public education systems are designed to be.


47 posted on 04/02/2018 9:56:04 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: Steve_Seattle

The article says the average before the raise was $45,276 and that the $6000 was an average raise - depending on time/experience. It is a sort of meaningless statistic. I don’t know what that really translates to in the real world - what is the starting salary and what does a 10 year and 20 year teacher make?


48 posted on 04/02/2018 10:23:01 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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>> but teachers said it was not enough

Clearly, they deserve more vacation days, seasonal breaks, a longer summer, and 25% salary increase.


49 posted on 04/02/2018 10:43:04 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

When you churn out that many democrat voters, it’s only fair. /s


50 posted on 04/02/2018 10:57:14 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: BackRoads775

the Gov should take back the bill she signed and say fine, you get nothing then. She can asign the monies elsewhere where its appreciated.


51 posted on 04/02/2018 11:00:49 PM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: BackRoads775

Remember Wisconsin?


52 posted on 04/02/2018 11:09:52 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: AFret.

“and defrost a possum for supper.”

I’ve got a dog that’ll go out and bring back fresh — no need to dig one out of the deep freeze.


53 posted on 04/02/2018 11:13:57 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: monkeyshine

The “average salary” quoted includes value of benefits like paid health insurance and retirement contribution. Actual base salary for a beginning teacher is a little over $31k on the state salary schedule. Some districts will pay more but not a bunch more, usually. A dated example for an experienced teacher is my now-retired wife, out of the education field for 9 years. She was right at 30 years service so the salary schedule had stopped recognizing years of service, she has a master’s degree in speech pathology (5% special education salary bump), and her final salary which was right after the last statewide raise was around $45k.


54 posted on 04/02/2018 11:23:16 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
They have asked for a $10,000 raise as well as additional funding for schools and raises for support staff like bus drivers and custodians.
Thanks BackRoads775.

55 posted on 04/03/2018 12:43:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: hal ogen
teachers are not underpaid nor overworked...

actually they are overpaid and underworked relative to real work....

they never say what they make now do they?...they always point out to beginning wages....

56 posted on 04/03/2018 1:26:26 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Steve_Seattle
that's a fine wage...they work about half a yr ya know....

maybe we should pay them the same and give them a few more weeks off in December or April...poor liddle dears....

57 posted on 04/03/2018 1:29:17 AM PDT by cherry
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To: hal ogen

The only ones I know of were the Nuns (the real ones) who taught & worked for free. And they did it happily for the Lord.


58 posted on 04/03/2018 1:31:35 AM PDT by FES0844 (SGould the allow it. Hi call the shots. IÂ’m sure Laura would have stayed)
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To: MrEdd

But you should see their Cadillac benefits that even part timers receive. Another week of more teachers who want to get paid for no work.
It would be different if kids graduated with basic skills.
These folks give honest educators a bad name. People who pour themselves into the kids.


59 posted on 04/03/2018 1:51:27 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018.)
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To: BackRoads775

So they get a 16 percent raise and go on strike? Voucher the @#$^!**&^ schools and be done with it.


60 posted on 04/03/2018 3:12:30 AM PDT by sphinx
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