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They're Coming For Them: Boulder Passes AR-15 Ban, Massachusetts Assault Weapons Ban Upheld
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2018 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 04/06/2018 7:13:35 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: palmer
Why are they aiming a weapon of war at a kid in a closet?

Because they're from the government and they're there to help him.

41 posted on 04/06/2018 8:42:23 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: TigersEye

Eh, let’s play devil’s advocate and say that it strictly applies to the militia.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

So, umm, yeah, seems like every male 17-45 should have full access to whatever weapons they want since they’re part of the militia.


42 posted on 04/06/2018 8:42:40 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: OKC Patriot
Would he be brave enough to bust a door down to take a free mans AR or AK?

Nah, Ruby Ridge.

43 posted on 04/06/2018 8:43:29 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Kaslin

US V Miller 1939 The Supreme Court ruled in 1939 that Miller couldn’t own a sawed off shotgun because the government attorney said the military didn’t use them therefore Miller as a member of the ‘militia’ couldn’t own and possess one either.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/307/174/case.html

“In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a “shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length” at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense. Aymette v. State, 2 Humphreys (Tenn.) 154, 158.

The Constitution, as originally adopted, granted to the Congress power —

“To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.”

With obvious purpose to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of such forces, the declaration and guarantee of the Second Amendment were made. It must be interpreted and applied with that end in view.”


44 posted on 04/06/2018 8:44:27 PM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: kingu

Continuing in the Devil’s Advocate role...

Should us 60+ guys give up our weapons of war?

For that matter anyone 46 and over?


45 posted on 04/06/2018 8:47:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: facedown

Liberals seem to have forgotten that was done by Democrats .... Janet Reno and Bill Clinton ....


46 posted on 04/06/2018 8:48:40 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Kaslin; PROCON; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; ..

Again. Refuse to comply.

If we’re just going to OBEY and give in, why have them at all? No “boating accidents” crap, either.

Our guns are for THAT day.

That day is here, in some places.

We have decisions to make, folks... because THEY will use lethal force against us to make us comply.

I already know my decision. And some folks aren’t going to be too happy.


47 posted on 04/06/2018 8:56:09 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: TigersEye
Well, if one uses the strict militia interpretation, if you served in the regular military forces, you would be part of the militia through age 64. Women who aren't enlisted in the national guard or previously served in the regular military forces would be forbidden from possession of firearms under that interpretation (which I guess means either way certain female Democrat leaders would have to give up their firearms...)

Which I guess means I'd have to give up my firearms, my wife would have to give up hers, and my daughter as well. To eliminate in one sweeping move all the idiotic and patchwork laws in this country restricting firearms and ammunition, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Since I know the 2nd is a proscription against the government, like all of the bill of rights, I bring this up not to limit firearms from women or those over 45, but to show plainly that the whole ‘it's just for the militia’ argument is just a cop-out. It's a justification to steal natural rights and jealously hoard the right of self defense for the government to dole out as it sees fit, or deny entirely.

Plus the original text of the amendments is extremely plain that it is a proscription against the government limiting weapons and never an enabler for their taking of rights.

48 posted on 04/06/2018 8:59:43 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: laplata

I bookmarked that! That man speaks for me.


49 posted on 04/06/2018 9:01:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: kingu
Statute laws notwithstanding I think I'll stand on the text of the 2nd Amendment. "the right of the people."
50 posted on 04/06/2018 9:05:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Kaslin

The framers meant muskets! It was what was needed to defend against other muskets. If our gov’t has much stronger weaponry than citizens, we are subject to be subjects again!


51 posted on 04/06/2018 9:06:09 PM PDT by jch10 (Media: prostitutes for the Democrat Party.)
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To: NFHale

You are right. The left is depending on compliance. They can’t win any other way. They either want you to turn them in or hide them in a wall. They know that the hidden rifle by a compliant citizen can’t stand in the way of tyranny. Your rifle in a wall or “lost in a boating accident” isn’t any good. Without use, practice and passing the love of freedom and shooting to our children, the left wins.

When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.

Don’t let the left pry freedom from the cold dead hands of all those who gave up their lives for it.


52 posted on 04/06/2018 9:11:53 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: OKC Patriot

Great Question!!!

REWARD FOR INFORMATION


53 posted on 04/06/2018 9:14:40 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: TheDon

“They can pass laws, but who’s going to enforce them?”

In CA these laws are nearly universally ignored.

I don’t know of anyone that has turned in a single rifle.

Of course, that makes range time hard.

It helps to dry fire and make mag changes in your living room.

That said, it’s nearly impossible to unlearn how to handle an AR well.


54 posted on 04/06/2018 9:14:43 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jch10

I think when one looks at historical context as to who owned the cannons used in the revolutionary war as well as harp guns, duck foot pistols, grenades, bombs, ships of war, etc, that there was never any original interpretation of it simply meaning muskets. Nor do arms limit to firearms, but includes all weapons and tools of defense including swords, knives, and heck, even pitchforks and brass knuckles.

All of these interpretations have one singular goal, to eliminate the natural right of self defense. Defense against any aggressor be it neighbor or government.


55 posted on 04/06/2018 9:14:49 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: facedown

Where Is He Now?


56 posted on 04/06/2018 9:16:13 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: SaveFerris

Ruby Ridge was George HW Bush


57 posted on 04/06/2018 9:21:12 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: TheDon
They can pass laws, but who’s going to enforce them?

Why, the latest in Gun Control of course.


58 posted on 04/06/2018 9:41:20 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: Kaslin

Give them an inch and they will take a mile.


59 posted on 04/06/2018 9:44:26 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: Kaslin

SCOTUS has to put a stop to this crap.


60 posted on 04/06/2018 9:46:12 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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