7 Forces Driving America Toward Civil War

Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2018 | John Hawkins

[Pollster1]

. . . if you look at the “principles, manners and virtue” of Americans today, they don’t seem capable of dealing with monumental events like the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Depression or World War II. Most people in their twenties probably couldn’t tell you why all those events were such challenges in the first place.

Far too many of our young people can't even figure out which restroom to use or which pronoun applies to another person. I suspect this is what they call "first-world problems". What they don't realize is that means they have no real problems, so they create artificial problems out of a psychotic need to feel important.

"I'm going to save the world by not exhaling toxic CO2!"

"I'm going to save the world by ignoring science and genetics so that people can choose what sex to call themselves."

"I'm going to save the world by disarming all law-abiding people so that criminals won't have guns."

[nobamanomore]

I’m not optimistic either. I think we’re making our way to a socialist, communist takeover. Half our country thinks overthrowing an election is cool. A third have no idea what Auschwitz is. Sometimes you have to find out things the hard way.

[DuncanWaring]

“Sundown at Coffin Rock”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772851/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2183354/posts

[wita]

I would add, Needed changes, or complete loss of Medicare, and Medicaid benefits.

[Lake Living]

To me, number 4 should be number 1. It’s the most important.
With a moral populous, the locus of control is internal (God see all, knows all, and will judge all, Though there is at present forgiveness - if we come his way. Fear him above men and there is life, personally and nationally). Yes, God is still merciful but I do not see national repentance looming on the horizon. Perhaps hard times may bring it.

With an immoral populous, the locus of control must be external. A surveillance culture. A cop and camera on every corner or in every home. Centralized authoritarian control. N. Korea here we come - if not Auschwiz.

We could not possibly fight a world war today and have any hope of winning it. There are just too many willing to sell us out to the enemy for 30 pieces of silver. Most of them are in Congress.

We spend little time in our public discourse after a tragedy discussing the real problems of the human heart and our fallen, sinful nature - the root of mankind’s problems.

It’s so late in this game that it is hard to be optimistic when we have become such a lawless nation. We have Iranian sleeper cells within and Hezbollah mixing it up with the drug cartels south of the border bidding their time.

An excellent read at Adina Kutnicki’s site. Article entitled:
Blow-Back: Obama’s Shield To Islamic Regimes Primed To Erupt

https://adinakutnicki.com/2018/04/14/blow-back-obamas-shield-to-islamic-regimes-primed-to-erupt-homeland-entity-report-april-2018-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/

On that same page is a link towards the bottom entitled:
“House of Bribes: How the United States led the way to a Nuclear Iran.”

The last is a bit tedious to read but extremely informative though very discouraging to see how entrenched the enemy is within and how both Dems and Repubs are on the take from these enemies of liberty and for how long.

When baby killing and sodomizing are celebrated and protected how can we believe that there’s a bright future ahead for our nation?

[Kudsman]

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[Crucial]

Hawkins makes a pretty good case. No matter what happens, it’s going to be a wild ride.

[Alas Babylon!]

When it is discussed on the Left, there seems to be an assumption that lone resisters might get into firefights with dozens of police or soldiers, as opposed to ganging up with other formerly law-abiding Americans to waylay gun confiscators, politicians and anti-gun activists at THEIR HOMES in guerrilla actions that would be silently applauded and supported by hundreds of millions of Americans concerned about their freedom.

Without being arrested for issuing death threats, what a "friendly" way to strongly advise Leftists and Journalists that this is a very likely outcome that does not favor them at all?

[Da Coyote]

There appears to be no way around it. Sooner or later, the left will not be the only ones resorting to violence. It is long past time to react when a leftie tries throwing something, punching someone, or damaging things.

That reaction should rightfully include pain for the leftie.
As said in the Princess Bride, “To the pain.”

[Noumenon]

A “cold” civil war, you say? Congressman Sinise begs to differ.

[Lake Living]

You left out Woodrow Wilson.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/17/moralizing-in-america/

[ealgeone]

This 2016 Presidential Election map by County illustrates the problems.

There are strongholds of liberalism in the red states. In the south a lot of the blue areas are heavy African American.

Southeast Florida is heavy Hispanic and retired northerners.

Southern Texas, NM and AZ is heavy Hispanic.

Three tribes to deal with right there.

This doesn't even begin to address the most basic of all issues: Food and Power.

Whether we like it or not a lot of our food is grown in CA. In a CW, that goes away for the Red States. All those blue counties in the south....a lot of food is grown there as well.

Think electricity is going to continue to flow in a CW?

[Ransomed]

Three reasons why I think we are pretty far away from any sort of widespread sustained civil unrest, at least while things remain like they are:

Everyone is fatter, if not healthier. The poorest are actually the most likely to be obese, something that hasn’t ever happened before. Hard to imagine many choosing the uncomfortable hardship sustained civil unrest would bring while the poorest are so well fed.

We are the most passively entertained people ever. I just think this brings a high level of disengagement with actual real-life society while providing an outlet for outrage in the virtual world. Look out if the internet gets turned off, I imagine rotund zombies in the street howling for their smart phones to turn back on.

The number of eligible people who choose not to vote have outnumbered any single political party for 100+ years. We haven’t had even 65% eligible voter turnout since 1908. You would think more would deign to try voting if things are so bad before they take to the streets. I think those who care about politics and culture, at least enough to vote about it, regularly overestimate the number of people who care like they do.

Freegards

[ealgeone]

Yes! The list is not all inclusive by any means. But you’re right...he was the first.

[Alas Babylon!]

Here's one way. Millions of gun-owning, never break-the-law, normal citizens go outside and shout:

If only we had a way to be activists, out amongst the world, being proud and defiant of who we are and why this country is great, instead of like-minded fellows discussing the future on an Internet forum...

[Georgia Girl 2]

Fantasy is a wonderful thing. This article has pretty much hit it on the head. The US is divided right down the middle. We are never going to reunite unless some significant event like invasion by a common enemy of the New Madrid fault of Yelowstone erupting.

Civil war is on the way. Trump may stave it off for 8 years but at this point I am doubtful even that will happen.

[ripnbang]

Actually there is a lot of research that millenials, (and I see it in my millennial age children), aside from dumb social media practices (not wholesale and they’re changing, too, due to Facebook type privacy issues) are actually eschewing the debt/credit debacle many of us (I’m a young baby boomer) witnessed as we were in our 20’s-40’s. My millennial kids are minimalists and not “wanting it all”. They’re happy with smaller houses, cheaper vehicles, spending time with their children and saving money. My daughter and son-in-Law are able to make it on one salary (well, she is a stay-at-home mom doing free lance consultant type work as time permits) and are building their first home...a modest one at that. They have very limited consumer debt and work hard at putting money away on a modest income. My other millennial daughter and her husband have limited debt and exist on his Navy salary...she’s a stay at home mom, too. I see a bright future for them.

[M Kehoe]

Bttt.

5.56mm

[stanne]

If it’s a God or no God principal, then accepatane of normalization of abortion is the issue. It is complicated further by its core belief (the acceptance of normalization of birth control).

People think they can have a good relationship with God and still reject the sanctity of life.

This is what makes conservatives wimpy when defending the country on a local level. They know they are in the wrong so they resist being bold.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

That’s pretty profound!
I really pray you are right!