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Fake News Media still Faking History about Failed KGB Agent Ernest Hemingway
Townhall.com ^ | June 2, 2018 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 06/02/2018 4:58:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/02/2018 4:58:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Damn


2 posted on 06/02/2018 5:06:16 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin

I had to have my class read hemingway and fitzgerald. I chose ‘old man...’ and an excerpt fron gatsby (that was enough)

The ninth grade boys said old man was boring and weird. I said ya, agree. Pointless.

Just saying.


3 posted on 06/02/2018 5:08:37 AM PDT by stanne
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Ernest Hemingway officially signed up with the KGB as “Agent Argo” in 1941?

KGB having been formed in 1954, this wasn’t possible. Perhaps the MGB or SMERSH.

4 posted on 06/02/2018 5:12:01 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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More likely the NKVD.


5 posted on 06/02/2018 5:20:32 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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“According to transcripts of NKVD files prepared by a Russian historian who subsequently fled to the West, Hemingway “was recruited for our work on ideological grounds” by an operative named Jacob Golos.”
6 posted on 06/02/2018 5:22:33 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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To: Vaquero

Wasn’t a “reforming”, just a badge change, all same, same.

Say Chekist in USSR at any period even up to current day and everyone knows what you mean.


7 posted on 06/02/2018 5:22:57 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Kaslin

So many of the “important writers” are accorded that distinction simply because they were/are Leftists.

Oldest son had to read “Catcher in the Rye” during high school and failed to see the point of it, other than Holden Caulfield was a self-absorbed basket case. I was struck by his insight but, then again, I raised him.

Personally, I can’t abide anything by Arthur Miller.


8 posted on 06/02/2018 5:39:35 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Hey, Rocky--Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!)
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To: Kaslin

Hemmingway was a Leftie going back at least to the Spanish Civil War. Anybody who could support the Republican-side after much publicized murders of priests & nuns is certainly a candidate for NKVD recruitment. The fact that he was a falling-down drunk by the ‘50’s prevented any critical look at the actions of a literary legend.


9 posted on 06/02/2018 5:53:27 AM PDT by Tallguy
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Thank you. As I was reading I saw apparent inconsistencies.

Knowing about some parts of the Hemmingway life not in the public realm, via a friend of his daughters, I have a small glimpse into the real man but it may only be a view of but one aspect.

Hemmingway was apolitical and indifferent. He loved Cuba, only a few hours boat ride from his other home in Key West. The revolution there apparently was not surprising to him and he wished to be left alone. He knew when interviewed, interrogated, questioned or snooped on by Batista or Castro supporters, that to maintain his peace he felt he had to tell them what they wanted to hear but in a manner of an old man who was just a hermit of sorts.

Hemmingway had been in war before, knew it to be pointless in ways, delivering needless death, filled with irrational attitudes. He wanted no part of it. He wanted to be left alone.

There are many accounts of Hemmingway written contemporaneously in Key West. He would walk down its streets in his fish blood stained ragged shorts to the bars and at the bar complain about his wives that took all his money. He was a regular Joe who just happened to be a fabled author who came into money which his wives and girlfriends helped themselves to. He was known to avoid talks of politics and preferred to talk about cigars, fishing, seasons, women. He was not a radical, a revolutionary, closet or otherwise, at least to the people that saw him several times a week.


10 posted on 06/02/2018 5:54:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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He changed literature, but I don’t think artistic greatness is an excuse for moral turpitude, as some do.

Besides, not all agree on his greatness. Easy to copy, so he started a movement, minimalism, but one literary friend of mine described him as a monosyllabic moron.


11 posted on 06/02/2018 5:55:00 AM PDT by firebrand
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Hemingway had fantasies of being a spy in WW2 Havana. His efforts centered around he and some friends taking his boat out with a few weapons and searching for U Boats. The American Embassy gave him minimal support until it became clear that these excursions were really an excuse to get drunk and his reports were pure fiction. I wonder if his efforts for the Russians were equally reliable.


12 posted on 06/02/2018 6:02:11 AM PDT by yawningotter
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Hemingway’s stuff was flat stupid I decided when I discovered Robert Ruark.


13 posted on 06/02/2018 6:04:18 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: Kaslin; firebrand; nuconvert

This article does not give the full picture:

Hemingway was in periodic contact with the Soviet foreign intelligence service—the NKVD (the People’s Commissariat for Internal Affairs)—while at the same time in contact with and informally assisting both the US Navy Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) and, following the invasion of France in June 1944, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). The question that Reynolds poses throughout the book is, “Who was in charge of this relationship?” By the time the reader finishes the book, the only reasonable answer is, “Ernest Hemingway was in charge.”

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol-61-no-2/hemingway-writer-sailor-soldier-spy.html

He was an entrepreneurial adventurer that used his contacts IRL to get stories for his writing.


14 posted on 06/02/2018 6:16:23 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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11 page article:

It is impossible to know; there is just not enough information, and that situation is unlikely to change unless his entire NKVD file becomes accessible or previously unknown Hemingway letters come to light. We are left with the irony that four organizations that could not agree on much—the NKVD, OSS, FBI, and Department of State—all arrived separately at the same conclusion: Ernest Hemingway may have wanted to be a spy, but he never lived up to his potential.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol.-56-no.-2/pdfs/Reynolds-Hemingway%20A%20Dubious%20Spy.pdf


15 posted on 06/02/2018 6:28:08 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Kaslin

Dang, I didn’t know Hemingway was a communist. That has been suppressed rather well.


16 posted on 06/02/2018 6:44:07 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (what a mess we got ourselves into)
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To: Kaslin

He wrote some good stuff - other than that, who really cares about what else he was now that he’s been moldering in the ground?


17 posted on 06/02/2018 7:36:55 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrite<i> Yet anoths who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks for posting this link!:

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol-61-no-2/hemingway-writer-sailor-soldier-spy.html


18 posted on 06/02/2018 7:47:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump does what is good for Americans. Then, the world gets their pants in a knot, too bad!)
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The NY Slimes never viewed any communist mass killer as a bad guy. The link below covers their love and following of Fidel Castro for decades.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/26/world/americas/fidel-castro-timeline.html


19 posted on 06/02/2018 7:55:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Trump does what is good for Americans. Then, the world gets their pants in a knot, too bad!)
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Sandra Spanier. Wife of former President of PSU Graham Spanier:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Spanier


20 posted on 06/02/2018 8:30:39 AM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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