Posted on 06/04/2018 6:12:30 PM PDT by Magnatron
‘I had no idea we were in a nation where you could be indicted for potential crimes.’
This, literally. Mueller is investigating Trump for *thinking* about firing Sessions.
Fact.
.Mueller is more than happy to tamper with the truth when it comes to perjury traps and more than happy to tamper with exculpatory evidence.
Not to speak of tampering with the law and rules for an SC.
Call it the Gowdy Doody Report...
I think you and I are on the same page on this, though it might not be clear. In my post I said "...Granted,those bad things were by people in the Trump campaign who had reason to hold a personal grudge against him...but still..."
Heh, I had written those words "but still" with the intention of fleshing them out, but in the process of checking out some dates and facts, never did.
What I intended to finish up there with was "...but still, that doesn't mean someone should get swallowed up in this anti-constitutional witch hunt just because he sounds like a jerk..."
In your post edie1960, you do reference the modus operandi of the Mueller team in this, which has been well documented by Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent with plenty of experience in investigations. What the Mueller team is doing is typical and classic behavior.
They are putting the squeeze on underlings to Trump in the hope that one of them will squeal and reveal something to nail Trump with, because...that is how these things are often done in the criminal arena when they don't have anything on their prime target who happens in this case to be Trump.
As you well know, they used Papadopoulos and Page as pry bars to get the cover of legitimacy for their FISA warrant which is...TAH DAH! ...retroactive.
So, with their bull$*** "Crossfire Hurricane crap, we know they started this surveillance far further back than the May 10th meeting between Papadopoulos and Downer, and certainly even further before they got an approved FISA warrant on October 21, 2016.
They wanted it all retroactive, because they had already, using the "two hop rule" (which means they can not only surveil Papadopoulos but they can also surveil anyone he communicated with....and anyone THEY communicated with, which pretty much means they were electronically surveilling the ENTIRE Trump campaign and probably familiy and friends as well. All with that "two hop rule".
So, in answer to your excellent question, edie1960, the sweep is wide.
Think about it. When FISA surveillance started out, it used to be a "Three Hop Rule", which means they could legally surveil the subject, everyone the subject communicated with, everyone those people communicated with, AND EVERYONE THEY COMMUNICATED WITH!!!!!
And it would all be "legal". If you do the math, you can see they were approaching being able to surveil MILLIONS of unknowing Americans...legally.
Witness tampering 101...
Therin lies one of the most dangerous and corrosive things about all of this.
In this country, we investigate crimes. We don't investigate "people".
Investigating "people" is a totalitarian Leftist tactic. The Federal Register is so large and encompassing that any one of us is likely to be in violation of ten laws or statutes at any time and liable to prosecution.
The head of Stalin's Secret Police said it best when he stated:
You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime. ( Lavrentiy Beria)
Note that the “potential witnesses” refers to Manafort’s dealings with Ukraine, again nothing to do with Trump.
How do we know Mueller isn’t lying? He’s desperate to get somebody with his fiasco. I don’t think he has the credibility to be believed.
The FIB and DoJ can lie to you, but not you to them.
They are righteous and you are not.
See how that works?
True but they’re crappy dancers. Sometimes, people get shot.
This, literally. Mueller is investigating Trump for *thinking* about firing Sessions.
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Thoughtcrime
kids in the house too I heard.
Aaaawwwww, is Widda Bobbie Wobbie not hearing what he wants to hear? Is Widda Bobbie Wobbie going to hve a tantrum until he gets what he wants?
But don’t you dare to crappy dance with one in the chamber.
A Very Special Agent might be wounded.
Then who would figure out the LV shootings?
What would happen if you left your piece in your vehicle in SF so it could be stolen to murder some sweet young thing on the pier?
+1
All good points.
I agree, and I don’t really think the gotcha thing with testimony is on the up and up. I dare say most of us couldn’t keep the story exactly the same over months on end.
Thanks, Conservator.
Your analysis is very helpful.
Drudge has definitely jumped the shark.
You’re right—but that is Mueller’s MO. He doesn’t care about justice or right and wrong. He just looks for any way, no matter how unfair or irrelevant, to pull a gotcha. He’s the worse one they could have assigned to manufacture crimes where none existed—and that was by design.
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