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Two doctors volunteer to STAY with children trapped in Thai cave for FOUR MONTHS (trunc)
Daily Mail ^ | 7/3/2018 | Charlie Moore and Connor Boyd and Iain Burns and Julian Robinson

Posted on 07/03/2018 12:24:45 PM PDT by sodpoodle

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To: sodpoodle

From the article “ That journey takes a healthy - and skilled - Navy SEAL diver about six hours.”


101 posted on 07/03/2018 4:58:20 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: sodpoodle

All the beaches they have in Thailand and these kids can’t swim? What the.......?


102 posted on 07/03/2018 4:58:27 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: NorthMountain

How wise is it to leave them where they are and cross your fingers hoping more rains don’t cause the water level to rise? The air supply is already so low that only 4 rescuers can be down there at a time. Imagine the bacterial levels after 4 months with them pooping and peeing. They’re all healthy with relatively minor injuries today so lets wait until those injuries get infected and kids start getting weak from sickness and fright and then try to get them out.

But you were kidding, right?


103 posted on 07/03/2018 4:59:56 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ransomnote

They don’t need a map. They now know the most direct route so send down a rope to lead the way out. There are places where they can float and relax before going back under the water. The tight space is near the entrance/exit of the cave so that’s a plus. But, it could be that just because grown men had to take off their tanks that little skinny kids may not have to or for less time.


104 posted on 07/03/2018 5:07:16 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: 1_Inch_Group
I have a feeling they will be out of there relatively soon. Makes for great drama in the meantime.

Remember that 18-month-old girl Jessica that fell into a well in Midland, TX? The whole nation was riveted to that one. The well was only eight inches wide and the situation looked hopeless. But they got her out of there - I think it took about three days.

Now that makes me feel old. That was over 30 years ago and here is grown-up Jessica, in all her middle-aged glory.


105 posted on 07/03/2018 5:07:47 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( Have you eaten your bone marrow today?)
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To: ransomnote

The article also made it out that the kids became “rake thin” over 9 days time. The before pictures showed them already skinny. The msm always gives the straight facts, right?


106 posted on 07/03/2018 5:11:11 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

I was not kidding. I’ll take the suggestions of the diving experts on the scene, over those of Pseudonymous Internet Dude.


107 posted on 07/03/2018 5:12:03 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
It's becoming a more common problem in our modernized age. Kids are not being taught to swim. In fact, they aren't being taught much of anything about being outdoors. I learned how to swim when my father tossed my two-year-old body into a lake - or so that's how it was described to me because I don't remember. All I know is I don't remember a time when I ever could not swim. I was never afraid of water, in fact, the deeper the water, the better. My main fear was diving into shallow water and hitting my head on the bottom.

I made sure my own children were confident swimming at an early age. I never gave them formal swimming lessons, I just made sure they were in the water quite a bit and they picked it up just fine.

How can you not teach your kids to swim? It's almost like giving them a delayed death sentence.

108 posted on 07/03/2018 5:20:57 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( Have you eaten your bone marrow today?)
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To: SamAdams76

Wow. Thank you (/s) for making me feel old too.

Told my brother when he had babies he had just killed us all.

He’s like....whatcha mean?

Now we can see when a year has passed....and they are flying by.


109 posted on 07/03/2018 5:51:26 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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To: painter

I’ve got about 100 dives under my belt. Only had a couple of incidents but never anything really serious. Anything could have gone wrong and I would not be alive today. Had a friend who almost didn’t make it on a cave dive and that was enough for me to say I would not do it. Did a lake dive once to 80 ft and the visibility was so bad I had no idea were I was. Got vertigo and never did another lake dive.

Point is, when you are diving, ANYTHING can go wrong. Training children to get it right the first time is not something I would want to bet on. That said, I pray they make it. It’s in God’s hands now.


110 posted on 07/03/2018 6:06:41 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Teflonic

Thanks for posting that cross section, detailed graphic of where these boys are.

Prayers up.


111 posted on 07/03/2018 6:09:58 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: BBB333

Yes a 24 inch borebole down to the immediate area of where the boys are would expose them to potentially dangerous rock debris raining down upon them.


112 posted on 07/03/2018 8:39:22 PM PDT by tjd1454 (L))
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To: unixfox
Did a lake dive once to 80 ft and the visibility was so bad I had no idea were I was. Got vertigo and never did another lake dive.

Point is, when you are diving, ANYTHING can go wrong. Training children to get it right the first time is not something I would want to bet on. That said, I pray they make it. It’s in God’s hands now.

I probably have over 1000 or more dives under my weight belt, and have dove everything from the Lake of The Ozarks, rivers, farm pond, and the Carribean. From ZERO visibility to over 100ft vis.

The worst thing that can happen is something goes wrong and you PANIC! Bad things happen unless someone who is trained is with you. I have trained 100s of divers over the years and can spot a panicked diver in a heartbeat.

The one thing that spokes a diver Especially a new diver is claustrophobia! Trying to teach those kids to swim then to dive that distance in a CAVE with near zero visibility would probably Kill most of them.

113 posted on 07/04/2018 9:29:39 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: painter

Could they not quickly acquire a slim one person capsule that would fit through the narrowest opening along the route. That way each kid wouldn’t have to learn to swim and use scuba gear, just lay back and breathe normally. Am I on to something?


114 posted on 07/04/2018 9:42:46 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I get that a capsule could induce claustrophobia, but like has been stated, the kids could be sedated. Git’r Done!


115 posted on 07/04/2018 10:05:33 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

An oxygen supplied, water tight capsule just to be clear. I would hope someone in the operation is at least considering this.


116 posted on 07/04/2018 10:09:46 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I could see that working. As long there isn’t any tight corners to go around. Even if the kid panicked he would still be alright.


117 posted on 07/04/2018 10:37:35 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Ronald_Magnus
An oxygen supplied, you mean compressed air? That is what's in SCUBA tanks, NOT pure oxygen.

If you would breath pure oxygen below 33ft (one atmosphere) it would kill you. The pure oxygen will burn up or blow up your red blood cells in your system!

118 posted on 07/04/2018 10:44:41 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: painter

Right, compressed air. You could have removable weights to provide neutral buoyancy. At the dry part of the cave, you could remove the weights to enable “runners” to carry the capsule over the dry parts to the next submerged part where other divers would maneuver it on.


119 posted on 07/04/2018 10:52:44 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Kickass Conservative

I’d say that’s the answer.

Coffer dam and pumps.

The kids would be able to walk out just like they walked in.


120 posted on 07/04/2018 11:07:34 AM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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