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5th boy rescued from cave in Thailand
ABC & AP ^ | JULY 9, 2018 | ABC

Posted on 07/09/2018 6:32:59 AM PDT by Hostage

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61 posted on 07/09/2018 9:27:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: Hostage
. The rescuers put kids in "cassettes" to help transport them safely thru flooded areas.


62 posted on 07/09/2018 9:29:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And it is international news because as a species we tend to respond when children are in peril. It is a biological imperative to care.


I’ve been reviewing my posts and I realized the core reason I’m even posting is because this speaks to one of my news cycle “pet peeves”. To wit, there are MILLIONS of children in the world “in peril”. This is just the one surrounded by the most interesting story right now. Reminds me of the Baby Jessica story.


63 posted on 07/09/2018 9:33:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: caww

I assume those helmets are underground communication devices....no?


64 posted on 07/09/2018 9:33:56 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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Danish cave diver Ivan Karadzic, who is stationed at "Camp 6" to assist the rescue divers said that the divers believe today's operation was "even more smoothly executed than yesterday," which may be a result of less water being in the cave system.

He said that the boys were indeed wearing a full face mask as well as several wetsuits "to minimize heat loss.” This is because the water is very cold and they are “very skinny," he said.

The boys are attached to the divers with a small line called a "body line," which he says is "common to use in low visibility" in order "to minimize any kind of risk."

Yesterday, when he saw the kids in "Camp 6," he said they were “looking good considering the situation they were in."

65 posted on 07/09/2018 9:36:37 AM PDT by caww
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Good news....i hope it continues....


66 posted on 07/09/2018 9:39:01 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: caww

That’s a great method as it can keep the kids calm. The kids do not know how to swim.

Also, parts of the choke points are NO VISIBILITY areas with rough currents, a combination of could cause a kid to panic as they become disoriented and full of fear.

Those cassettes can protect against bumping up against rock carried by high currents in a pitch black dark. And this goes on for miles. One can imagine an overwhelming fear striking each kid as they don’t know up from down or which direction. Their lives are in the hands of the divers.


67 posted on 07/09/2018 9:39:12 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Not sure......but it is noteworthy that Thailand internet access and other communication we have here in the states are certainly not the same. Even weather reports etc. are not quickly obtained or accurate as Thailanders have reported throughout this rescue. I suspect the rescue teams took that into consideration as there’s a great deal of ‘details’ they covered well in bringing this together.


68 posted on 07/09/2018 9:45:26 AM PDT by caww
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I immediately thought of Baby Jessica too. :)

But this is not just about the kids but about those who are going to such great lengths to get them home safe.

It has everything a great story needs, make 'em weep, make 'em laugh, make 'em wait.

And it has the virtue of being a true story with a happy (or at least semi-happy) ending.

How many other "kids in peril" stories can you say that about?

69 posted on 07/09/2018 9:49:40 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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Some of these kids were pretty lean to begin with, and small in stature.....I suspect the leaner ones took a bigger hit without much food and likely the weakest among them coming out of this...


70 posted on 07/09/2018 9:51:56 AM PDT by caww
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To: cuban leaf

Most children in peril around the world are in war zones or in societies that have abandoned them because there is no means to care for them.

There are private rescue orgs that help such children.

To rescue such children requires commitment and logistics over a time period that is more manageable.

This story of the children trapped deep inside a mountain under perilous conditions is on a more extreme timeline where every minute counts toward saving lives. The oxygen levels, food and potable water (2+ weeks trapped without resupply), no light or devices as batteries go dead.

Hard to imagine 2 weeks inside a mountain cave unable to see anything, miles from the entrance with no way to get out, not knowing how to swim (which is actually good because a swim could take going under water for more than a mile), not knowing if anyone knows where you are, not knowing if there is or ever will be a rescue.

Nightmare. And to think some of the kids are only 11 years old.


71 posted on 07/09/2018 9:53:18 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I can’t argue with that. I just don’t get into this stuff really, Even the Baby Jessica story was sort of a back burner thing that I didn’t pay attention to. The one thing I remember from that story is something we can all learn from:

The 15 minutes of fame for the fireman who’s photo holding her became viral ended up being fata. He killed himself.

That is the single aspect of the story I remember.


72 posted on 07/09/2018 9:54:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: caww

I’ll bet you 10 to 1 some of those kids are now destined to be Navy Seals, Physicians, or both.


73 posted on 07/09/2018 9:56:12 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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Obviously I’ve not been following the story. When a faint spark of curiosity about it wells up in my head, it’s always the same question: How did they find themselves in that situation in the first place. But it is so faint I’ve not bothered to find out. I’m more concerned about Trumps SCOTUS pick and the shenanigans in Europe.


74 posted on 07/09/2018 9:58:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: caww

IIRC, their ages are from 11 to 16.


75 posted on 07/09/2018 9:58:49 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Hostage

Very likely.....or movie stars as the after photos, media etc. are surely going to carry this through to the last drop of water is squeezed out of it!


76 posted on 07/09/2018 10:04:18 AM PDT by caww
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.....”Obviously I’ve not been following the story”.....

Yes ..that’s obvious.


77 posted on 07/09/2018 10:05:24 AM PDT by caww
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When a parent has a healthy smiling 11-year old that they love and guide and one day learns that their child is missing deep somewhere inside a mountain, perhaps dying of hunger or suffocating from a lack of oxygen, or perhaps impossible to rescue, a darkness descends on the soul.

And when such parents learn their child has been found but that rescue may be impossible, that oxygen levels are depleting, that monsoon rains that caused the nightmare to begin with, are starting again, a primal instinct takes over all adults involved.

To see how people come together to figure a way out of the predicament that has a potential for fatal consequences on both sides, both rescuer, and rescuee, this is a story of human survival against the odds.

It becomes gripping as it takes over our most basic emotions. Because it’s not simply a straight walk into a cave, it is an almost impossible path to rescue and yet here we see these hero divers and support people come together and achieve the impossible.


78 posted on 07/09/2018 10:10:10 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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I think this must also be a visual story. I’m guessing that those that get TV news are seeing a lot of video, artists conceptions (I heard about the water level and shape of the caves) and other visual information increasing the drama.

Since I see none of that, and it’s halfway around the world, it just has a much smaller impact on me, so it is less of a news story for me, personally.

Now, if it turns out the cave is leaking radioactive material that could make its way to Puget Sound, where my daughter lives, I’m gonna be more interested.


79 posted on 07/09/2018 10:19:36 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To be fair, the details of the story were NOT well-described until some of the recent rescues in the last 48 hours started to focus on just what all these people were up against.

“Boys Trapped In A Cave”
is a headline that can race past the focus of most people.

“Some Boys Rescued By Hero Divers”
is a headline a little more interesting.

“Rescue By International Divers Underway For Boys Trapped Miles Deep In Dark Flooded Cave For Two Weeks”
is a headline that grabs more attention. Once some of the details emerge, the story goes viral.


80 posted on 07/09/2018 10:21:37 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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