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Germans fear Donald Trump more than Vladimir Putin, poll finds [YouGov; gefälschte nachrichten]
Deutsche Welle ^ | 07.15.2018 | Jefferson Chase

Posted on 07/15/2018 5:45:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

“Never underestimate the thoroughness of the Germans, especially if they end up with a strong leader.”

That cannot happen without a coup. And I doubt such strong will still exists in Germany. I believe that’s been culled out of their genetic pool.

The 15% of their population they lost in WWII were the willful and resolute.


61 posted on 07/15/2018 8:01:08 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

It’s there, but not in the halls of power at present. The present rulers are employing rule by crisis, something that Obama himself did but they did first. Things can turn on a dime suddenly over there, which is why I would see Trump’s plan of working with individual member states to be more stabilizing and the sooner the better.


62 posted on 07/15/2018 8:06:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ll believe it when they produce 100 of their very own 5th generation fighters and a Navy of 100 warships.

Until then they are not a military threat to anyone, anywhere.


63 posted on 07/15/2018 8:15:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

The point is to prevent the “until then”. And that’s aside from the extant command structure and the Bundeswehr quietly taking over the forces of Romania, Slovakia and the Netherlands at present.

Back in Churchill’s day, the buildup of Germany was downplayed severely in the media, with Churchill himself being derided by his political rivals in terms that would make the USSR blush. I’d like to see Trump take the opportunity to nip any such repeat of history in the bud. The rhetoric against them implies much more being cooked up than what appears on the surface.


64 posted on 07/15/2018 8:22:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

in that case, we should DEFINITELY pull all U.S. troops out of of Germany ... hell, we should pull out of NATO all together, it’s an obsolete relic of the Cold War that we won and is costing us countless billions better spent here in our own country ...


65 posted on 07/15/2018 8:23:33 PM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: Mariner
Sorry; that was meant to be “(t)he rhetoric against him,” meaning Trump.

And the fact of this endless barrage of anti-Trump rhetoric already implies, in addition, something like a new Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement in place already—indeed, the Nord Stream pipeline would require such an agreement, and Trump pointed that out openly to the discomfort of the German elite.
66 posted on 07/15/2018 8:25:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

It’s no different than the rhetoric employed against Viktor Yanukovych, the coup which was also led by Germany.

“a new Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement in place already”

Russia would not be so foolish again. They will never cut a political partnership with Germany.

They see Germany as their eternal, existential enemy.

And with good reason.


67 posted on 07/15/2018 8:35:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Olog-hai

Commercial transactions only. That will be the limit of that relationship.


68 posted on 07/15/2018 8:37:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: catnipman

“...we should pull out of NATO all together, it’s an obsolete relic of the Cold War that we won and is costing us countless billions better spent here in our own country...”

Agree wholeheartedly. We’re about to have Venezuela Mk. II on our border. We need thos assets along our southern border. EUniks can rot.


69 posted on 07/15/2018 9:15:43 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Ace McCain: The tumor is a rumor but the boot was a hoot.)
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To: Mariner

they were afraid of Reagan also.


70 posted on 07/15/2018 9:25:56 PM PDT by Hunterb
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To: Olog-hai
Germans are moronic. The last century proves it. They have learned nothing.
71 posted on 07/15/2018 9:27:29 PM PDT by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: Mariner

1 million American soldiers didn’t die in Germany. The total deaths of American troops barely topped 100,000 in both World Wars. I mean give me a break.


72 posted on 07/15/2018 10:40:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Democracy: The cliff's edge of Marxism)
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To: Olog-hai

They already signed a new version of the Molotov–Ribbentrop plan with the pipeline...


73 posted on 07/15/2018 11:17:39 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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That’s essentially what Trump pointed out, although he cast it as Germany being subservient to Russia most likely to put the thought in voters’ minds.


74 posted on 07/16/2018 1:45:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
What do Ger,mans have in common with our own low-info crew?????

This article outlines it nicely...

75 posted on 07/16/2018 3:24:04 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: Olog-hai

So I suppose if we bring our troops home and let Putin have them they’re cool with that.


76 posted on 07/16/2018 7:25:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The US suffered 407k + military deaths in WWII and 671k+ wounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties


77 posted on 07/16/2018 7:28:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Germans fear that Trump’s and Putin’s alpha male tendencies could collide

LOL!

How would the Germans know about anything about alpha males?

History books?

78 posted on 07/16/2018 10:59:43 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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The Long game is beyond them.

Same as 1941, when they decided the pursuit of Lebensraum was more important than securing oil supplies.

79 posted on 07/16/2018 11:08:50 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: Mariner

Dennis Prager has an axiom: Take what Germany says and always do the opposite.


80 posted on 07/16/2018 11:11:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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