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Marine still fightsback: Ahead Of Trial, Judge Upholds VA Policy (Opioids)
The Greenville Sun ^ | Jul 18, 2018 | Ken Little Staff Writer

Posted on 07/20/2018 5:05:50 AM PDT by GailA

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VETERAN'S WERE PAIN MEDS WERE CUT 3 MONTHS AHEAD OF CIVILIAN USAGE. THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS AND DISEASE THAT HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS.
1 posted on 07/20/2018 5:05:50 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA; mabarker1

2 posted on 07/20/2018 5:10:41 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA

“...Rose seeks personal damages of $100 million “for pain, suffering and extreme torment...”
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This (lawsuit jackpot seeker) causes me to lose sympathy for this guy’s lawsuit.


3 posted on 07/20/2018 5:14:48 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Black Agnes; LUV W; muggs

I’d say Dr Redfield is very BIASED. Plus the fact his record may not be all that clean. If any one can dig up a contact for the CDC please post it, I tried calling my US Rep, they don’t have any contact for them, which I think is a Crock of BS. Redfield has to have a government email.

This is all I could find. 1600 Clifton Road Atlanta, GA 30329-4027 USA https://www.cdc.gov/about/leadership.htm

Top doctor of the CDC nearly lost his son to fentanyl, calls opioid addiction ‘the public health crisis of our time’
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-dr-robert-redfield-jr-fentanyl-cdc-cocaine-crisis-20180717-story.html

Virologist Robert Redfield Named as Next CDC Director
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/virologist-robert-redfield-named-as-next-cdc-director/

Robert Redfield, CDC director: Opioid epidemic worse than HIV
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/8/robert-redfield-cdc-director-opioid-epidemic-worse/

New CDC chief Robert Redfield pledges to bring opioid epidemic ‘to its knees’
http://www.onlineathens.com/nationworld/20180329/new-cdc-chief-robert-redfield-pledges-to-bring-opioid-epidemic-to-its-knees

The CDC director’s deeply personal reason for fighting opioids: His son nearly died of an overdose
http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/ct-cdc-director-son-opioid-overdose-20180717-story.html

CDC chief makes $375K, far exceeding his predecessors’ pay
https://www.apnews.com/4ea52b1ff1b24142ac7d91541c3abc65/CDC-chief-makes-$375K,-far-exceeding-his-predecessors’-pay

CDC head
On the face of it, veteran virologist Robert Redfield seems like a good pick to lead the agency, but decades-old disputes are shadowing his appointment.
https://www.kff.org/news-summary/opinion-piece-argues-robert-redfield-not-fit-to-be-cdc-director/

The CDC’s New Chief Was Accused of Fudging HIV Vaccine Research in the Early 1990s
https://gizmodo.com/the-cdcs-new-chief-was-accused-of-fudging-hiv-vaccine-r-1824001869

AIDS Researcher Top Candidate to Lead the C.D.C.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/health/cdc-robert-redfield-director.htm


4 posted on 07/20/2018 5:18:25 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: GailA

Judge ought to hit him with some hefty sanctions for the frivolous claims. He reminds me of the old Montana Freedmen and the ROT crowd.

Wonder if his back and leg issues would improve if he dropped about 100 pounds.


5 posted on 07/20/2018 5:20:27 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: House Atreides

Money is to be donated to helping other Veterans. Not personal gain. He just wants decent treatment by the VA.

“Vets & Civilians Fight Back” is a grassroots group dedicated to fighting the Veterans Administration continued denial of providing veterans, our nation’s heroes with quality health care. BUT it is also, for CIVILIANS in this battle against us by the CDC and DEA who are making so many lives miserable by asinine policies causing so much suffering for so many Chronic Pain Sufferers and their families! We have no plans to request donations only showing your support by joining our group and if you have the time to make phone calls and mail letters to the VA, CDC, DEA, your elected officials and as many news outlets as possible. For more information about what we are fighting for, please do your own Google search on all who are suffering from the lies and misinformation regarding the “opioid epidemic.” Thank you, take care and may God bless...

We defended your freedoms…
Will you support America in her time of need?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/vets.fight.back/


6 posted on 07/20/2018 5:22:58 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO Wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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It’s the drug warriors dream come true: literally torture disabled people.

If they did this (withheld pain medications) with POWs, it would be a violation of the Geneva Conventions. Of course, it’s more important to make a statement than effectively treat people.

I pray every politician and bureaucrat involved in this charade gets a chronic illness and spends their lives in intractable, unending pain. Sadistic bastards every one.

THERE IS NO OPIOD CRISIS. ITS 100% FENTANYL, AND ITS NOT BEING PRESCRIBED THROUGH LEGAL MEANS.


7 posted on 07/20/2018 5:25:44 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: GailA

They’re limiting post surgical mefor non veterans, also.


8 posted on 07/20/2018 5:26:45 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: GailA

One of the efforts that the government instituted when managing healthcare was to have patients rate their doctors. Most patients lack the knowledge to appreciate the difficulty of medical or surgical practice and will formulate opinions on things like, how pretty the dressing looks or more correctly, on how much pain they felt.
In order to remain in the good graces of the medicare administrators most doctors recognized that pain relief resulted in happier patients. The rest, as they say, is history.
Now, the government will threaten your medical practice if you prescribe too much. Isn’t government involvement wonderful?


9 posted on 07/20/2018 5:27:35 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: GailA

See. We have no more opioid crisis if the government says you cant have any more.

“Pain Contract”s are joke. I failed a mandatory P-test when on pain meds for my back surgery. Docs try to cancel pain meds because I was trying to slack off of the Ativan they have had me on forever and didnt have the proper amount in my precious bodily fluids. No mention of the hydrocodone they were handing me in 5 gallon buckets.

(All you Reefer Madness Freepers should just ignore this cause it will make your heads go splodey.) I have bucked Zohydro (time release hydro), hydrocodone apap, Cymbalta and Gabapentine in the last 3 months with the help of hemp seed CBD oil. I have one final (praying) nerve cauterization and I am looking to get some of my life back for the 1st time in over 15 years.

Carry on smartly.


10 posted on 07/20/2018 5:32:29 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: PAR35

He could probly exercise more if his legs and back didnt hurt so much.


11 posted on 07/20/2018 5:35:26 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: Delta 21

I have RA. Waiting on my MEB and am trying to stay off everything. All the doctors have completely stopped prescribing opioids. They give me Tramadol, but it doesn’t work and I can’t do and OTCs due to other meds. I want to stay off everything as long as possible, but unless I die first, at some point, opioids will be the only efficacious option.

All these big drug warriors can come laugh at me then as my twisted, mangled body is wracked in pain and tell me how I just need to suck it up. In the meantime, maybe they can spend weekends at a cancer clinic railing at these evil people who got cancer just so they could get drugs.

THIS POLICY IS EVIL. TORTURE IS WRONG.


12 posted on 07/20/2018 5:47:39 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: antidisestablishment

Political desk riding results in very very few pain inducing or injurious situations.


13 posted on 07/20/2018 5:48:44 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: antidisestablishment
All the doctors have completely stopped prescribing opioids. They give me

Tramadol, but ...

Tramadol is a synthetic opioid and another chemical very similar to Effexor. I was addicted to it with 7 different doctors from 4 different clinics telling me that it is non-addictive, (NO WAY YOU CAN BE ADDICTED TO IT!) for over 4 years before they would listen to me.

14 posted on 07/20/2018 5:55:43 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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They’re limiting post surgical mefor non veterans, also.

I've had both my hips replaced...the first one was nine years ago,the other one a few months ago.Both were done by a senior surgeon at Massachusetts General Hospital,considered by many to be the finest hospital in the world.

I was on a narcotic drip during both hospital says (2 nights each) and was sent home both times with 90 oxys.On both occasions I took the oxys for a few days at home and then turned to Motrin.I flushed the unused oxys down the toilet.

If physicians and surgeons are tightening up on prescribing narcotics the word hasn't reached Massachusetts General Hospital yet.

15 posted on 07/20/2018 6:04:07 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: PAR35

“””””””””Rose, a former teacher who is now disabled, served in the Marine Corps from 1983 to 1994. He is now on 100 percent disability due to service-related injuries that affected his back, spine and legs and caused other complications that leave him in constant pain. He is also a diabetic and has other medical conditions. “”””””””””””””””

He he needs to eat right and get in shape. Opioids won’t fix that. He also says he has his own health insurance. That means his private doctors won’t give him the crack either.


16 posted on 07/20/2018 6:10:52 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Delta 21

I took myself off Tramadol for that very reason. It’s very addictive, and it doesn’t work if you don’t take it to the point of addiction.

They wanted me to take it 6 times a day; every day. I tried to take it as needed, but it doesn’t do anything that way. Even so, it took me weeks to get clear of it when I went completely off. I was an insomniac and nervous as a whore in church.

I just find it ridiculous that they hand this crap out by the barrel, and yet natural opioids are vilified, despite having similar hazards. It’s all about the money. They’re just going to drive people to the streets. Most people have no concept of real chronic pain—thank God—but, they should have some compassion for those who do.


17 posted on 07/20/2018 6:36:28 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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“It’s the drug warriors dream come true: literally torture disabled people.”

THIS ^^^ !

“THERE IS NO OPIOD CRISIS. ITS 100% FENTANYL, AND ITS NOT BEING PRESCRIBED THROUGH LEGAL MEANS.”

Aaaaaaaaaaannnd ^ THIS ^ !


18 posted on 07/20/2018 6:37:40 AM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: GailA

This crack down on opioids is actually really starting to affect people who aren’t addicts!

My sister has had seven back surgeries throughout her life and she can barely walk (when she does walk, you can see the pain in her face with each step)! She also has RA and fibromyalgia.

About two months ago, on a Wednesday, her doctor gave her Tramadol, to replace the opioids, but they didn’t work. As instructed by her doctor, if she had any issues she should call his home-based office assistant to let the doc know (this was on Friday morning). HIS home-based office assistant asked if she still had some of her Tylenol-4’s, she said she did, and the assistant said just take those until you see the doctor. The assistant called her back on Friday afternoon with an appointment for Tuesday.

When she went in, the doctor took her off ALL meds, because she took the Tylenol-4’s, which he says that she shouldn’t have taken?!? The doctor told her that HE could get into trouble because she was taking Tylenol-4 AND Tramadol. She told him that she wasn’t taking the Tramadol, but he said they go by the prescriptions he writes, not whether or not the patient took the meds.

Well that is ignorant, because not everyone responds to medicines that same way, so sometimes the doctor HAS TO ISSUE several different drugs to find the right one! DUH!

She went almost two weeks in tear-inducing pain before her doctor gave her any replacement pain meds that actually worked! He kept trying to force her on the Tramadol, which simply does not work for her - PERIOD!

THIS IS A FORM OF TORTURE!


19 posted on 07/20/2018 6:40:24 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated!)
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To: House Atreides
causes me to lose sympathy for this guy’s lawsuit.

Me too. I know someone who found a doctor in another state who would prescribe very high doses of opioids when local doctors would only prescribe reasonable amounts. He would make the 8-hour drive up and 8-hour drive back occasionally to get the new prescriptions. He'd use what he needed and sell the rest.

20 posted on 07/20/2018 6:46:37 AM PDT by libertylover (I'm not arguing with you; I'm just explaining why I'm right and you're wrong.)
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