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California Was Warned Months Ago Its Grid Could Buckle In The Heat. Now It’s Happening
The Daily Caller ^ | 07/24/2018 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 07/24/2018 11:58:18 AM PDT by detective

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Just cook on the sidewalk already...save even more energy,


21 posted on 07/24/2018 12:22:06 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: detective; All
Thank you for referencing that article detective. As usual, please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Expected power demand is expected to outstrip California’s available generating capacity by about 5,000 megawatts on Tuesday, according to the California Independent System Operator (CAISO)."

Noting the summer ’17 dates on the following articles, I guess that I shouldn’t be surprised to see contradictory information about what’s going on in California.

Corrections, insights welcome.

22 posted on 07/24/2018 12:22:16 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Balding_Eagle

All new construction. It really could make a difference, especially when you consider how many panels are actually required. When the AC is most needed is when the cells will also be producing the most electricity. Tens of thousands of homes producing enough (or almost enough) of their AC needs would matter.

Of course it’s still a dumb idea. It will help California the same way a Pay Day Loan helps the lendee. It can get you out of a tight jam, but you will pay dearly for it. And it won’t fix the systemic problem.


23 posted on 07/24/2018 12:23:34 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: davidb56

“the available power is 50k megawatts and the demand rarely exceeds 40K megawatts since running out all the large business firms”

Peak power supply includes natural gas peaking plants. There is not enough pipeline capacity to supply these plants. On peak days, like recently happened there will be rolling blackouts.

Here is an article from the Institute for Energy Research from 2016 predicting the exact same thing.

http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/california-electricity-shortage-issues/


24 posted on 07/24/2018 12:24:12 PM PDT by detective (Cia)
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To: detective
After decades of shutting down power generation within Cali borders, they're whining about a power shortage.

boo hoo.....

How's all that renewable wind and solar power working for you now?

25 posted on 07/24/2018 12:25:32 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: detective

Welcome to Bartertown!


26 posted on 07/24/2018 12:26:36 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: detective

California and New York depend upon America to bail them out of their mistakes. That is why they must control Congress.


27 posted on 07/24/2018 12:27:24 PM PDT by Herman Ball (2)
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To: dan on the right
Need a few nuke plants out there.

Like NY, the leftists want to shut down nuc plants. Diablo Canyon is scheduled to be shut down in a few years just because.

Their solar panels/wind turbines plans are not sufficient.

I hope they sweat in LA and Sacratomatoe, and SF. Boy, SF will smell when the temperatures scream up (which does happen occasionally) and the feces on the side walks ripppens.

28 posted on 07/24/2018 12:28:06 PM PDT by politicianslie (OPTIMIST-Glass 1/2 full- PESSIMIST 1/2 empty TO ENGINEER, Glass is twice as big as it needs to be!)
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To: detective

You get the government you voted for...green energy and higher prices to consumers and in higher usage periods power shortages. Welcome to utopia.


29 posted on 07/24/2018 12:30:13 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("itYou can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: detective

“California was warned months ago?”

This has a been a problem in California and the entire Southwest for as long as I can remember.

It’s all Enron’s fault. This all so makes it Bush’s fault.

Remember when that was a Meme here? Did the have memes yet?


30 posted on 07/24/2018 12:30:33 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: detective
Bullchit!

I've been hearing these "grid horror stories" for the past 30 years.

If the dam grid doesn't get wiped out from an EMP, it wont matter because global warming is going overload it and it'll fail anyway.

Then the slimy politicians wring their hands until nothing happens and then they never do a thing about the problem until they start crying during the next crisis.

If any grid in the country goes down now, the people serviced by that section deserve what they get.

We've known that we are supposed to be susceptible in this area and have done absolutely nothing about it.

31 posted on 07/24/2018 12:31:31 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Amendment10

California’s solar energy supply is not matched to the electricity delivery grid. In other words, the kwh’s produced by solar energy can’t reach the customers.

Therefore they must sometimes pay other states to take the excess kwh’s from California.

Thus, the titles of the two articles:

“California invested heavily in solar power. Now there’s so much that other states are sometimes paid to take it”

“California’s electrical grid can’t handle all the solar energy the state is producing”


32 posted on 07/24/2018 12:32:42 PM PDT by detective (Cia)
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To: detective

They had a lot of water - they send it down river for smelt.
And then there’s the war they won’t admit - adding illegal immigrants who increase demand or reducing demand to satisfy environmentalists.
Then need to decide which constituency they’ll obey, because you can’t do both.


33 posted on 07/24/2018 12:32:42 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: cuban leaf

Got it. I thought you were serious. You got me.


34 posted on 07/24/2018 12:35:01 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: right way right

Yeah, its only about 100 today here in Eastern Washington. Supposed to be 108 by Monday


35 posted on 07/24/2018 12:35:35 PM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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To: cuban leaf

Or 5 Nuke plants...


36 posted on 07/24/2018 12:36:25 PM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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To: detective

Looks like it’s time to bring Rancho Seco online.


37 posted on 07/24/2018 12:36:44 PM PDT by semaj (U\)
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To: skimbell

“I’ve been hearing these “grid horror stories” for the past 30 years.”

What you call “grid horror stories” are actually intelligent people projecting possible future shortages of electricity.

As the politicians have mismanaged California’s electricity supply there will gradually be shortages during peak periods. This will cause rolling blackouts during peak days.

Just like in a backward, third world country.


38 posted on 07/24/2018 12:37:34 PM PDT by detective (Cia)
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To: tbw2

I went to Burlington Friday to return a few things. I swear I was the only white person in the place. It could have been located in Mexico and I wouldn’t have known the difference. I’ll start saving energy and water when the politicians send all the Mexicans and South Americans back home where they belong. Til then they can talk to my hand.


39 posted on 07/24/2018 12:38:05 PM PDT by sheana
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To: fruser1
fruser1 :"They think the environment is more important than people so this is as expected and by design.
If green energy can’t meet the demand, oh well.
Can’t build another power plant. Too harmful."

Too true !

Announced by CPUC president ( California Public Utilities), Michael Picker, who said the number and intensity of dangerous windstorms are increasing,
making the need for pre-emptive blackouts paramount over the local disruption to be caused by intentional windstorm blackouts.
The problem is the Santa Anna winds, according to Picker.

Of Interest, is the fact that "Prior to his appointment, President Picker was Senior Advisor for Renewable Energy in the Office of the Governor from 2009 to 2014."
So,.. if it's hot and windy, the public be dam*ed - because it will overtax the grid system, negate the value of renewable resources
and renew and encourage utility dependency on fossil fuels.

That is what this issue of planned rolling blackouts is really all about.
Today it is about Malibu..
Tomorrow is will be about Southern California,.. and still later all of California.
And later still, this may be the condition of the Coastal Cities that are governed by the Libtards who ignore the use of fossil fuels.
Are you prepared for blackouts ?, .. perhaps for an extended period of time like those who have experienced a hurricane ?
Have you, or you and your family had a practice simulation of life without electricity, cellphone, internet access, refrigerated medication, cooking, food storage, etc.?
Practice means that there will be no surprises, when you and your family are faced with problems; you will already be 'well versed" on how to respond !!

40 posted on 07/24/2018 12:38:46 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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