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Opinion: Trump's giveaway to Big Oil will accelerate climate change
CNN ^ | August 8, 2018 | By Leah C. Stokes

Posted on 08/08/2018 11:46:02 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Ozark Tom
re> Many projections of a Yellowstone event leave much of the country with less than 10mm ash-fall

I do remember reading of people with brooms as far away as Kansas sweeping up the ash. (Not that the media is ever to be believed). As far as Yellowstone if the super volcano ever goes they say their would not be much left of the USA.

61 posted on 08/09/2018 8:03:47 AM PDT by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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To: PreciousLiberty

“Virtually every scientist agrees that more CO2 going into the atmosphere causes some warming.”

The big lie, repeated so often that the feeble minded such as yourself believe it, is that there has been warming.

The fact is there hasn’t been any warming. None.

Again, I am a scientist, not a Luddite.

I worked for years with the DMSP spacecraft, the ONLY spacecraft that has measured the Earth’s atmosphere since the 1960’s. It has actually shown a cooling.

Long term ice studies also show the Earth is headed into a cooling period.

There isn’t a single ground-based temperature system that has shown a temperature increase. England’s idiots lied and changed temp readings, and America had temp sensors in inappropriate places like next to air conditioners putting out heat.

There has been zero warming. None.

So much for increases in CO2 contribute to warming. It obviously doesn’t.


62 posted on 08/09/2018 8:40:41 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Ben Ficklin

Nope, you are misinformed. Natural gas has substantially reduced electric emissions, but not that much.

The most recent EPA data reports that emissions from electricity generation is 28.4% versus the transportation sector’s 28.5% of total US emissions. https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-emissions-data

However, the transportation sector includes air, rail, ship, and pipeline modes as well as cars and trucks.

According to IEA “CO2 Emissions from Fuel Combustion” (2017), Figure 13, CO2 emissions from road transport account for about 75% of total transportation emissions. (2015 data)
Google for a link to this reference; it requires free registration.

So road transportation is only about 21% of the total.

But that includes heavy trucks, buses, and motorcycles as well as cars and light trucks. EPA’s latest “US GHG Emissions and Sinks, 1990-2015”, Table A-116, indicates that passenger cars and light trucks account for 71% of on-road vehicle emissions in particular.

So cars and light trucks in particular account for about 15% of total emissions. Not 28.5%. And that is using the latest available 2016 data for the EPA sectoral emissions and latest available 2015 for the split among transportation subsectors.

If you’d be happy with 2015 data, car and light truck emissions totalled 1.084 billion tonne CO2e (see Annex 3) versus the national total of 6.587 billion tonne, or about 16.5%.

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2017-02/documents/2017_all_annexes.pdf


63 posted on 08/09/2018 10:10:31 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Might as well wipe out all the
herbivores on the planet. Their
exhaust pipes produce more
Co2 than cars do.


64 posted on 08/09/2018 4:14:10 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Lean-Right

Correction:Not Co2, But this particular gas has a warming potential that is significantly higher than carbon dioxide.


65 posted on 08/09/2018 4:24:51 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, she doesn’t use any Products produced by Big Oil?

No Fossil Fuels, no Plastics, nothing that is Petroleum based including Prescription Drugs.

If she calls 911, will the Police and Fire Department walk over to her House rather than drive over to see what she needs?

Hate Big Oil, don’t give them any of your Money.
Same goes for Big Pharma or any other “Big” Business.


66 posted on 08/09/2018 4:25:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Skepolitic
Transportation Replaces Power as Top Source of CO2 Emissions
67 posted on 08/09/2018 6:12:43 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: CodeToad; All
'“Virtually every scientist agrees that more CO2 going into the atmosphere causes some warming.”

The big lie, repeated so often that the feeble minded such as yourself believe it, is that there has been warming.'

It's not that it's "repeated so often", it's basic and obvious physics. Again, educate yourself.

"The fact is there hasn’t been any warming. None."

The satellite, balloon sounding, and surface data all refute that statement.


Note the unmistakable warming trend in the observed data.

"Again, I am a scientist, not a Luddite."

You're the most un-scientific "scientist" I've seen. You've yet to cite a single source supporting your crackpot assertions. And of course anointing yourself a "scientist" is simply an appeal to authority, a well known fallacy.

Back up at least one of your incorrect points. How 'bout linking just one peer-reviewed, published paper from a qualified scientist that makes the case for the majority of the observed increase in atmospheric CO2 content NOT being from human activity?

Don't bother responding without it.

68 posted on 08/10/2018 6:15:09 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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Sorry, I don’t argue with nitwits. You haven’t a single clue what those charts mean, where the data comes from, or the qualifications to peer review them.

We’ve stopped teaching how to discern facts in this country. People such as yourself run on emotion, so it is easy to lead them by the nose ring using pretty charts.


69 posted on 08/10/2018 6:41:51 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Leah C. Stokes is a homely moron.


70 posted on 08/10/2018 6:45:23 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: CodeToad; All

I thought so, not a single thing to back up your crackpot notions. Some “scientist”. You’re entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

“Sorry, I don’t argue with nitwits.”

Apparently I have been...

“You haven’t a single clue what those charts mean, where the data comes from, or the qualifications to peer review them.”

You are absolutely incorrect, as you have been throughout this thread. Those charts eviscerate your claim of “no warming” in the satellite record.

Go ahead and have the last word, I’m sure you won’t be able to resist. Again, I urge you to learn at least a little science (physics in particular) before opening your pie hole next time.


71 posted on 08/10/2018 9:22:46 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Constantly doing All is not socially acceptable. It goes to show your lack of maturity and consideration. Typical liberal.


72 posted on 08/10/2018 9:38:52 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!)
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To: Shethink13

Ha ha. Still think there is an unusual obsession with gas prices without figuring in the cost of the vehicle itself. Also depends on how much some one drives in a month.


73 posted on 08/13/2018 2:17:47 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sam Gamgee
Still think there is an unusual obsession with gas prices without figuring in the cost of the vehicle itself. Also depends on how much some one drives in a month.

Agree and my husband does that too. Gets upset when he sees gas .05 lower somewhere else after he just fills his gas tank. Seeing as his entire gas tank is only 11.5 gallons and he usually only ends up putting 7 or 8 gallons in, I always ask what wonderful things he would purchase with that $.50.

74 posted on 08/13/2018 2:47:47 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Shethink13

LOL. Yes. Weird obsession people have. At least where I live, the retailers are just retailer for those that blame the gas stations for prices. They have the same struggle as anyone else in the retail business. But people like the bitch about 5 more in gas in their tank just to fill their Cadillac, BMW or Hummer.

What is insane is grocery prices and so surprised people don’t bitch more about that.


75 posted on 08/14/2018 9:23:33 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Ozark Tom

Found this.
Ash fall area:
Detectable amounts of ash covered 22,000 sq mi (57,000 km2)
Ash fall depth:
10 in (25 cm) at 10 mi (16 km) downwind (ash and pumice)
1 in (2.5 cm) at 60 mi (97 km) downwind
0.5 in (1.3 cm) at 300 mi (480 km) downwind


76 posted on 08/16/2018 11:40:53 AM PDT by IC Ken (Stop making stupid people famous)
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