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Once its greatest foes, doctors are embracing single payer (AMA Socialized medicine)
Kaiser Health News ^ | 8/7/2018 | Shefali Luthra

Posted on 08/08/2018 12:47:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009

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Kaiser HMO and AMA embrace millenial doctor's demand for socialized healthcare in the name of "social justice". All according to plan...
1 posted on 08/08/2018 12:47:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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To: MarchonDC09122009

So this is a demand from an even more commie faction within a commie org.


2 posted on 08/08/2018 12:49:46 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

And the AMA’s slide into irrelevancy continues unabated.


3 posted on 08/08/2018 12:49:50 PM PDT by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

I guess at least with single payer they get paid.

Under the current system insurance companies play tap-and-shuffle games to stretch their payables out to Net 500.


4 posted on 08/08/2018 12:51:00 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: MarchonDC09122009

There probably ARE advantages for them. Dealing with one bureaucracy, instead of multiple insurance companies, might allow them to reduce their staffs. On the other hand, wait till the Socialists demand they arbitrarily lower their fees and they have no place else to go.


5 posted on 08/08/2018 12:53:10 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

“Students come in saying, ‘We want to make a difference through social justice. That’s why we’re here.’”

Until it affects their pocketbook. This sounds like an idealistic cohort that hasn’t had reality hit them in the face yet. Good luck paying back that huge medical school loan.


6 posted on 08/08/2018 12:53:17 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

So is it also a “human right” to get good health care? Is it a “human right” to not have to wait for months to see a doctor? Where does quality fit into this? Odds are, you don’t want to get sick in a country where health care is considered a human right.


7 posted on 08/08/2018 12:53:33 PM PDT by Phillyred
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“Once its greatest foes, doctors are embracing single payer (AMA Socialized medicine)”

That’s like the NRA calling for more gun control. Dumshits.


8 posted on 08/08/2018 12:54:14 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Socialized medicine is deadly.

“193,000 NHS patients a month waiting beyond target time for surgery”

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jan/13/193000-nhs-patients-a-month-waiting-beyond-target-for-surgery


9 posted on 08/08/2018 12:54:49 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3)
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Future patient, circa 2030: "Doc, what can you do to save me?"

Future doctor, circa 2030: "I'd love to help, and will do what I can, but the government pretends to pay me and I pretend to heal people".

10 posted on 08/08/2018 12:55:12 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

They would rather do paperwork rather than treat patients. Besides, all that Liability hassle goes away if they are salaried employees of the government. The second rate doctors will gravitate toward full blown socialized medicine while the talented and astute doctors are moving off shore. Young people starting out in this great economy should be building a medical savings account to enable them to use cash to get those plane tickets and go to Costa Rica or Thailand to get major medical work done. For right now work, like a heart attack, well, tough luck about that. There is offshore insurance available for this. My Medicare supplement company has 50k for out of country expenses. Out of the country that is worth a multiple of what it would pay for in the USA.


11 posted on 08/08/2018 12:55:36 PM PDT by arthurus (yu)
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“Students come in saying, ‘We want to make a difference through social justice. That’s why we’re here.’”

Oh do bugger off you pukes.


12 posted on 08/08/2018 12:55:54 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Yeah, send them ALL down to Venezuela for a few months. If they get back, have them vote again.


13 posted on 08/08/2018 12:56:48 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: fwdude

This is why my father in law is not a member of the AMA. I am not a member of the ABA, for the same reason.


14 posted on 08/08/2018 12:56:49 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: MarchonDC09122009

One single policy change to bring down the cost of medical care in the US?

Let 50% more people into medical school every year.


15 posted on 08/08/2018 12:56:57 PM PDT by babble-on
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“We believe health care is a human right, maybe more so than past generations,” said Dr. Brad Zehr, a 29-year-old pathology resident at Ohio State University, who was part of the debate.

Millennials will be the death of us all

16 posted on 08/08/2018 12:57:13 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: MarchonDC09122009

All doctors aren’t AMA. AMA championed Oturdbo.


17 posted on 08/08/2018 12:58:03 PM PDT by dforest (Never let a Muslim cut your hair.)
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There’s a collision between controlling the cost of doctors’ wages and compensating them for the cost of medical school.

Some countries have evolved a system where doctors are paid decent, but not high-powered wages, but at the same time, don’t have a quarter-million in education debt, as well as an extended period of low wage intern/resident work.

I have a niece who, at 32, after being in an accelerated combo college/medical program (6 years to MD), has just entered private practice as an allergist after all of her post-degree training. She’s got a lot of debt, too. She deserves to make a lot of money... and indeed, needs in order to get past break-even, which will probably happen when she’s close to 40.

When you transition to medical socialism, you consume the invested educational capital of people like her by underpaying her relative to the investment she’s made. It’s pleasant for society at first (if not for the doctor). Like my tagline says, “It’s always a party when you’re eating the seed corn.”


18 posted on 08/08/2018 12:58:35 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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Wonder how all these SJW docs are gonna feel when they find out they’re gonna be paid less then the bureaucrats they report to and will have no independent practices they can ever aspire to.

And also how the patients are gonna feel when they find out they may or may not get medical attention when they come down with something based on some bureaucrat’s judgement, and there won’t be a damn thing they can do about it.

PS: the AMA spent years telling the Congress that there were too many docs already, and not to train more - that was back in the ‘70s. The idea was to limit competition. Unfortunately the population grew and they ended up with far less docs then they needed so they started importing docs from the Third world: the HMO’s really liked that cuz they worked cheep.

So instead of expanding US medical schools and educating Americans to be doctors - and there were millions of qualified people who applied in the ‘70s - they imported quacks. Now about 25% of docs in the US are foreign born, where that number was probably 5% in the 1960’s and before.

Great organization, that.


19 posted on 08/08/2018 1:00:15 PM PDT by Regulator
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There probably ARE advantages for them. Dealing with one bureaucracy, instead of multiple insurance companies, might allow them to reduce their staffs. On the other hand, wait till the Socialists demand they arbitrarily lower their fees and they have no place else to go.

Conscripted Comrade Doctor pay is less than Comrade Garbageman pay.

20 posted on 08/08/2018 1:00:27 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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