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Once its greatest foes, doctors are embracing single payer (AMA Socialized medicine)
Kaiser Health News ^ | 8/7/2018 | Shefali Luthra

Posted on 08/08/2018 12:47:50 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009

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To: Buckeye McFrog
My mother's attitude toward doctors telling her what to do was quite similar. She was brought up on a farm during the Depression, the youngest in an immigrant family that learned to make do.

She got throat cancer. With aggressive treatment it was in remission. She found herself in a nursing home, with the full regimen of scheduling including group physical therapy classes. After one class, the PT asked her if she was glad that they had exciting group activities that would get her healthy, (like sitting in a circle in wheel chairs and bouncing a beach ball to each other). My mother's response was "Hell No", went to bed, and died soon after.

Mom was imperfect, for sure. But now that it's in the past, I have to say "way to go Mom". Nobody told her how to live, right up to when she moved on.

81 posted on 08/09/2018 6:02:04 AM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: fwdude

counts counts fewer than 25 percent of practicing 1.2M+ physicians as members, down from 75 percent in the 1950. The key here is the 25% of doctors are members. These young doctors need to go and spend a year working in Canada are England and the national health Services.


82 posted on 08/09/2018 8:06:02 AM PDT by klsparrow
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To: DannyTN

The hidden agenda behind advocates of single payer is the same as the hidden agenda behind any trade union advocacy of lisencing or accreditation - namely, government enforced monopoly.

This racket is as old as government itself, because big business created and financed big government largely to enforce regulatory monopoly to protect them from competition.

The way it works is the wealthiest in a given industry cook up a fake public “concern” narrative, usually some variation on public safety. In manufacturing, construction or food processing it can be environmental impact, highway/home safety or health. In healthcare industry or education it can be malpractice and quackery, access and affordability, or social justice.

For every industry there is an angle by which corporations can raise public awareness over safety and access concerns and lobby (bribe) the government to impose regulations to supposedly address these concerns. Invariably though, the true effect of the regulation is to apply entry restrictions and hurdles which only the wealthy corporations can afford to comply with, or which only the wealthy corporate lobbyists can exempt themselves from.

The AMA and big pharm are no different - in the name of safety, lisencing, accreditations, approvals and testing protect the wealthiest institutions from competition from smaller entrants who can’t afford compliance and have no lobby power to pass legislation in their favor.

The federal government has become nothing but a giant protection racket, bought and paid for by big corporations.


83 posted on 08/09/2018 9:34:48 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Not one doctor I know and I know many feels this way

My premiums went from 480-1271 with Magic Negro Care


84 posted on 08/09/2018 9:37:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
This will end bad.

Signed,

ret nurse

85 posted on 08/09/2018 11:15:14 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)
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To: Regulator; MarchonDC09122009; arthurus

Before you vote for single payer or candidate that supports it, go spend a day at a V.A. hospital or clinic.


86 posted on 08/09/2018 12:17:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: DannyTN
If you think Medicaid might be a model of single payer, take note: In IL and OH Medicaid programs have run out of money and in some cases have stopped paying providers for services rendered.

”Reliable payment” is not etched in stone.

87 posted on 08/10/2018 9:06:36 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

That’s a good point.

In this case you have states involved.

But reliable payment ceases if Medicare decides to cut you from the program, and that’s where having a single customer is really really bad.


88 posted on 08/10/2018 11:14:10 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: wardaddy

I am a doctor, working since 1976, never a government employee, and I am a (very reluctant) supporter of single payer with a private option (cash for what you want) that would eliminate the insurance companies.

They have become, in effect, a cartel which provides a service (payment) under heavy government regulation but not subject to political control. Together with the hospitals, which are in effect their partners in the enterprise, they restrict and limit care while demanding compliance with “protocols” not based on the best we can do.

At least with a single payer, the user of services has recourse to the political system.


89 posted on 08/10/2018 1:29:52 PM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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