Is Death of a Nation movie collapsing badly at the box office?

Box Office Mojo ^ | August 12, 2018 | Box Office Stats

[frank ballenger]

Unfortunately even I (a right wing extremist) had a hard time with his book The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left. Hard to get through even though it’s good to get that story out.

I do not disagree with its premise, however. If that’s what this movie is about I may not even get the DVD after all.

[texican01]

I agree! A little truth never hurt anyone, particularly fuddy duddy Pretend conservatives and closeted “never Trumper” Pro American propaganda is GOOD propaganda!

[Jane Long]

I like your idea!

Fight for a Nation....Now is the Time....Last Chance for a Nation....

....something like that.

[Jane Long]

That’s scary.

Maybe he could do limited showings, like Beck used to do, in PREPAID for cinemas...or churches.

[euram]

my wife and I saw it at the local multi-plex starting at 4pm, and there were about 6 people there, which is about average for that time of day in mid-week, for any movie.

[cynwoody]

even die hard conservatives are going to shy away from a movie that compares the Democratic Party to the Nazis, no matter how apt the descriptions

See his book The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left.

The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK.

From one of the 1448 reviews (average review awards 4.8 of 5 stars):

I've grown up and spent much of my life in liberal ground zero in the US - the San Francisco Bay Area. I have seen so many odd things about progressives over the years that make no sense at all. And I'd forgotten about one conversation I had as an undergraduate student until I read this book. One of my political science professors pointed out that the Nazi party was a right wing creation. I raised my hand and asked how this could be the case if they identified themselves as socialists. My professor shut down the conversation by telling me I hadn't paid close enough attention to the reading and refused to discuss it further. Now, thirty years later, that conversation finally makes sense.

[T Ruth]

The theater where I saw the movie had it listed on the theater's web site, but there was no signage or mention of it at the theater itself. No poster, no listing on the marquis, nothing.

The movie was better than I expected. I made allowance for the fact that a lot of complex history has to be brutally abbreviated to fit into a movie.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

Horrors! It's already the 12th most moneymaking political documentary of all time and the 48th most moneymaking documentary of all time.

Also, Dinesh did something different this time. In the past he opened up at just a few theaters and as word of mouth spread he opened up more and more theaters. This is the first time he opened big. So I'm glad to see him try this out to see what would happen.

The good news is that overall Dinesh's documentaries have made more money than Michael Moore.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Obama's America . . . didn't have anything in it I didn't already know. Maybe Dinesh's films should be direct-to video releases. They are good resources for people who are not political junkies like most of us here.

I didn’t get to “Obama’s” but did see Hillary’s, and got to Death Saturday. I liked them, but they are limited.

Both make the case that the Democrat Party has been racist and exploitative of minorities, and that (with exceptions) the Democrat politicians of the Segregationist South did not convert to the Republican Party. Hillary illustrated that by showing black-and-white thumbnails of two thousand Democrat politicians before the Republicans took over the South, and converted only about a dozen to color to show the ones who switched parties. Death showed the same thing, but restricted its attention to senators and congressmen, only one of each having switched (one being Strom Thurmond). Hard to say which is better, both say the same thing, Dinesh could compromise and show both.

The other point which Death makes more explicit than Hillary is that “The Big Switch” supposedly happened in Nixon’s 1968 victory over Humphrey. And the “Southern Strategy” claim has a problem - Nixon didn’t win the deep South. Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia all went to George Wallace. And yet that didn’t throw the election to the House of Representatives, because Nixon won California as well as the rest of the South and Midwest. The popular vote was like 31 M for Nixon and 30 M for Humphrey, with Wallace picking up about 10 M. But Nixon got 301 EV, winning the Electoral College fair and square - convincingly - without the deep South. Humphrey was a regional candidate, not Nixon.

In a way I think D’Souza tries to make too many (good) points. I think a case can be made that blacks should seriously consider the Republican Party and President Trump, and Dinesh tries to make it but not, perhaps, in the right way. To make that case, you have to address the Great Society and its effects, as well as perhaps the New Deal. And on a philosophical level, subvert the “three fifths of a person” canard. Obviously, omission of that rule would have allowed the slave states significantly more Congressmen - and the slaves had no say in who “represented” them.

A case can be made that blacks should care about the Holocaust, and the culpability of the Democrat Party for being an inspiration, as Dinesh says, for some of that. But since modern blacks have a tendency towards antisemitism, that nexus needs to be developed in a nuanced manner. And the fact that Republicans have an interest in black prosperity - whereas “Democrats love poor people - that’s why they make so many of them.”

I very much enjoy Dinesh’s work, all of it. I just wish the people who need it would watch it.

Probably the best thing Dinesh could do would be to start with a more skeptical view of the Framers, and develop fully the reasons why in fact their work - the Declaration and the Constitution - deserve respect. I tend to think that that might best be the subject of a miniseries rather than a string of overlapping movies.

[Concentrate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odFYcYMPmYA

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

I wonder what would happen if Dinesh got together with Thomas Sowell on a project to appeal to black voters??? Dinesh clearly wants to accomplish that, and Sowell clearly has ideas about how that should be done. And that it should be done.

[ScottfromNJ]

“Since Trump the majority of the country finally has some hope to save this country from a very corrupt government and their media/leftist associates. So trying to peddle a movie in this era called, “Death of a Nation” is probably is going to flop.”

Yep. I like Dinesh, but the movie would’ve been more relevant and drawn more interest had Hillary won.

[publius911]

Is Death of a Nation movie collapsing badly at the box office?

Fake news?
I don't know boxoffice mojo from the DNC...

I would need a lot more details berfore taking this b***crap seriously.

[DHerion]

A 20% decline the second weekend is actually great (all films decline the second weekend)....most films decline 35-50% the second weekend.

[publius911]

Honestly, it was not very good. We saw it last weekend but it was rather...

That is an opinion.
An honest appraisal would make that clear.

People who say "it was fantastic," or "it sucked" are annoying. Who cares?
If you said, "I found it etc..." it's clearly an opinion not an absolute judgement.

[publius911]

Calling them “fascists” is just ridiculous.

I totally disagree.

"Fascist" today has a mixed definition; the Enemy Domestics' and normal informed citizens'.

Using the vulgar definition, it is well labeled. The least common denominator prevails.

The "antifa" and black thugs may not be fascists, they just act like their definition of one.

[LeoWindhorse]

yawn

[BradyLS]

That’s funny, I had to ask if it was being shown as well. They confirmed it. But not listed among “now showing” nor in the movie times for that days features. They even called it “Death of a N...” in the electronic sign over the door to the screening room.

At that point, I got it. Chains are downplaying the existence of the film without ever saying a word about it. You have to actively seek it out if you want to see it.

[usafa92]

Last I checked, 99% of all comments on FR are opionion, so thanks for your opinion.

[central_va]

Comparing Lincoln to a savior God and portraying the South of the 19th century as racists, fascists plus perpetuating the neo-myth the Civil Was all about slavery play’s into the modern Democrats play book. It’s a turn off.