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The Fed may have triggered the '08 crash by accident
The Hill ^ | 09/15/18 | DOUG CARR

Posted on 09/15/2018 7:36:39 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Mouton

Wait till the school debt crisis hits. At least with real estate there was a building left to sell.

Indentured servitude makes a return.


61 posted on 09/15/2018 9:05:37 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Pearls Before Swine
The states that were hardest hit concerning real estate were the normal speculation states. Arizona, NV, and Florida. That wasn't community housing. Just as now Los Vegas is booming. Not sure if that is good or bad. Everything comes in cycles, except .gov spending and debt which is nonstop.

Rising interest rates will come. That will burn alot of people, but there has to be a end to free money at some point.

62 posted on 09/15/2018 9:05:49 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Republican Wildcat

All good videos. Thanks.


63 posted on 09/15/2018 9:10:57 AM PDT by boycott
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To: yesthatjallen

Yeah, then maybe they triggered it on purpose.


64 posted on 09/15/2018 9:11:26 AM PDT by libertylover (Trump has driven the Democrats and GOPe batshit crazy.)
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To: Abby4116; yesthatjallen

“”Think Bush was still President in 2008.””

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Are you suggesting Bush was an innocent bystander in that epic crash?

If so, here is audio of a Bush speech just a couple short years prior to the epic housing crash. On the audio, Bush is clearly heard demanding home-loans for millions of totally unqualified minorities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68


65 posted on 09/15/2018 9:15:14 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I looked it up and remembered his name. It was Paul Kanjorski. He left office in 2011.


66 posted on 09/15/2018 9:17:06 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell)
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To: Republican Wildcat; deadrock; Abby4116; thinden; Diana in Wisconsin; jimfree; bgill; ...

“”Democrats, Democrat policies, Democrat inaction, and Democrats
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Here is audio of Republican Bush giving a speech just a couple short years prior to the epic housing crash. On the audio, Bush is clearly heard demanding home-loans for millions of totally unqualified minorities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68


67 posted on 09/15/2018 9:19:25 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: null and void

Whatever the fed did it was no accident


68 posted on 09/15/2018 9:23:15 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: yesthatjallen

The 08 crash was created by the Dems attempt to make home ownership an entitlement. They ignored good lending practices, fraudulently approved loans, and created the house of cards unsustainable housing boom.


69 posted on 09/15/2018 9:26:38 AM PDT by TruthWillWin ([[MSM]])
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To: dragnet2

Lets not forget that it was W who started the ‘too big to fail’ craze. He was all ‘compassion’ and no ‘conservatism.’


70 posted on 09/15/2018 9:28:23 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: originalbuckeye; Darksheare
I looked it up and remembered his name. It was Paul Kanjorski. He left office in 2011.

Yes! Thank you!

Rep Paul Kanjorski: 11 Sep 2008 Electronic Run On the Banks Video

71 posted on 09/15/2018 9:29:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: originalbuckeye; Darksheare
Longer video.

Rep. Paul Kanjorski: America's economy was attacked 'by somebody' on September 11, 2008 Video

72 posted on 09/15/2018 9:33:08 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Theoria

I agree with you that certain areas that had seen the most speculation crashed the most, as is usually the case.

The Community Reinvestment Act was not the major factor, but it was a contributing factor, perhaps indirectly. It encouraged... actually mandated.... that banks lend to many more people with low financial ratings. That contributed to, although it didn’t cause, the laxity that permeated loan qualification (e.g., no-doc loans). It also encouraged banks to get as many of these off the books by securitizing them into CMOs and what not.

And yes, cycles will continue. The 2009 one was deeper than most, because the buildup was bigger than most.


73 posted on 09/15/2018 9:34:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Pelosinwas in charge of the House. They were trying to undo all that Bush had achieved.


74 posted on 09/15/2018 9:35:15 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Nifster
Ya THINK???
75 posted on 09/15/2018 9:35:57 AM PDT by null and void (Government can never be trusted. It's full of government employees.)
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To: Keb
This is deceptive. The cause of the 08 crash was the sub-prime mortgage bubble popping. The cause of the sub-prime mortgage bubble popping, was the US Government pumping up the sub-prime mortgage bubble untill it popped. The cause of the bubble popping at that particular time may well have been the Fed’s effect on the liquidity of the banking system; that is not so easy to tell. But when you inflate a bubble like that, you make the crash inevitable. Only the timing can yet be influenced.

All true. The fact that the big investment houses we all too willing to package and sell all that bad debt didn't help things any though.

I really doubt Bush or Bernanke or anybody else engineered the collapse to put Obama in the White House. Would Bush have been unhappier with McCain as a successor than with Obama? Would Bernanke? Democrats could prevent housecleaning at Fannie and Freddy, but could they really have triggered a precisely-timed collapse? No, some kind of crash-landing was probably inevitable at some point.

76 posted on 09/15/2018 9:36:50 AM PDT by x
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To: yesthatjallen

The Fed may have triggered the ‘08 crash by accident


Yeah that’s the ticket, it was an ummm accident, an accident yeah.


77 posted on 09/15/2018 9:38:05 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Darksheare

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/28/financial-terrorism-suspected-in-08-economic-crash/


78 posted on 09/15/2018 9:41:20 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Thanks.


79 posted on 09/15/2018 9:44:28 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: oblomov
It took them until 2011 to realize what FReepers knew immediately. *sigh*

Thank you for finding the article. The draw down is what precipitated the mortgage crisis.

80 posted on 09/15/2018 9:51:42 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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