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If You Accept Science, You Accept Roundup Does Not Cause Cancer
American Council on Science and Health ^ | 10/09/18 | ACSH /staff

Posted on 10/21/2018 7:36:17 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

They were not my facts. They are facts from the article you posted. The test was done by placing bacteria on slides and putting Roundup on them. No animals were tested. Sugar can kill bacteria.

Which of these facts do you dispute? My conclusion was that the article is agitprop. My conclusion is an opinion which you are free to dispute. Maybe you have a different conclusion based not the facts as presented in that article.

But then again, you have serious questions about unknown consequences.


61 posted on 10/22/2018 6:49:34 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Do you have some research that is not “paid for”? Where is all that research that is done for free? Free lab time, free supplies, free scientist and researchers, it must be a wonderful thing.


62 posted on 10/22/2018 6:51:48 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I loved Vioxx.


63 posted on 10/22/2018 6:58:33 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: PIF
Do you remember Chlordane?

Oh yeah.

64 posted on 10/22/2018 7:40:28 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Glyphosate is a herbicide, not a pesticide.


65 posted on 10/22/2018 7:44:35 AM PDT by Mr. Mohasky (Common sense in a world lacking any, will be perceived & construed as an extreme point of view.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I loved Vioxx.

It certainly thinned the herd!

66 posted on 10/22/2018 8:26:04 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Do you have some research that is not “paid for”?

That's just a silly distortion of the main point - research that starts out with a conclusion, is not objective. Not climate change, not drug companies, and not Monsanto.

67 posted on 10/22/2018 8:27:14 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Teacher317

Good luck to you... spray away especially all those weeds around your house.


68 posted on 10/22/2018 8:53:43 AM PDT by DOC44
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To: YogicCowboy
Enormously increasing the exposure of persons to lectins, through patented seeds and insecticides, which may have a destructive effect on the intestinal lining...

Here's a paper showing a particular benefit of lectins: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cf3d/b151d1c5829a9597f44d7385f7549e7dca7d.pdf Basically the opposite of what you stated. Also please provide a scientific reference on those "patented seeds" and their relation to lectins. There is a relationship with insecticides as explained in the paper. But not to any patented seeds. There are lectins occurring naturally in some beans that may make it difficult to absorb nutrients in our gut.

69 posted on 10/22/2018 9:09:40 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Link that includes 28 footnotes of research.

How many of them did you read? Here's one: https://s3.amazonaws.com/academia.edu.documents/51684338/j.etap.2009.06.00120170207-29239-1q7mwki.pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAIWOWYYGZ2Y53UL3A&Expires=1540229062&Signature=Alf%2FXWbjf5Rf%2Bt%2FtHWBBfOubDMg%3D&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3DOxidative_stress_responses_of_rats_expos.pdf

It says glyphosate is generally not problematic except for raising cholesterol levels. The surficant in Roundup caused some problems as one might expect. Drinking detergent is generally going to cause problems. Glyphosate? Not so much.

70 posted on 10/22/2018 9:31:31 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Mr. Mohasky

Um, yes, sorry about that.


71 posted on 10/22/2018 9:51:29 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: Pining_4_TX

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The fact is that it does massively cause much disease, including cancer.

That is what real honest ‘science’ has found to be true.

Legislated ‘science’ not so much.

This award is absolutely appropriate!
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72 posted on 10/22/2018 9:55:18 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: John Locke

No, I don’t think so...

https://www.acsh.org/financials


73 posted on 10/22/2018 9:56:13 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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You’re right on the money on this.

Big Chem owns congress!
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74 posted on 10/22/2018 9:56:39 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: logi_cal869

And you don’t think the organization at your link is supported by leftist, environmentalists and that they are not fully funded by special interests? OK....


75 posted on 10/22/2018 9:58:50 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: thoughtomator

And the incessant attack on chemicals is funded by people like Soros and Steyer. ACSH was formed by scientists who wanted to stop the scare mongering.


76 posted on 10/22/2018 10:00:24 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: Pining_4_TX; aMorePerfectUnion

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>> “Every time they come up with the latest scare about a pesticide, I wonder why professional exterminators aren’t dropping like flies” <<

They definitely are!

But many more are becomming vegetables from the strokes induced by pesticides. I don’t call that life, but who knows!
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77 posted on 10/22/2018 10:01:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Please check out the link that a Freeper posted at comment #8.


78 posted on 10/22/2018 10:02:30 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (..Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you.. Joshua 1:9)
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To: palmer

The 28 are the tip of the iceberg.

But since you brought this up, I’ll add that my cholesterol is already high enough.

If you want a higher level for yourself, I support your right to ingest as much round up as it takes to get to your preferred level.


79 posted on 10/22/2018 10:02:46 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: PIF

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Keep your eyes covered, stomp your feet, and scream LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA.

Whatever you do, do not accept reality.


80 posted on 10/22/2018 10:04:14 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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