It certainly is. 
Posted on 10/31/2018 10:23:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Call them what they are, monopolies and regulate them. Regulate them by saying they cannot regulate what is posted. Isn’t that what the power of the government is for....to ensure freedom
It certainly is.
Both can be bypassed. Apply directly to ICANN for your name and IP block.
Buy your own network access and build your own servers.
Private corporations do it all the time. It’s very, very common.
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That’s a great answer.
However, to play devils advocate, you still need an ISP for your servers. You’re not going to start laying your own fiber backbone across the US too?
What do you do when the payment processing companies and the banking companies cut off your ability to collect from your customers? Do you build your own bank, and your own credit card processing companies?
It could get even more crazy. What if you can't buy gasoline for your vehicles unless you are a card-carrying communist? How about groceries? Or a vehicle? Or clothing?
Any ideas about other similar platforms currently available?
“Regulate them by saying they cannot regulate what is posted.”
Okay.....and I’m sure you have some legal standing to do this?
“Isn’t that what the power of the government is for....to ensure freedom”
Then bake the cake.....because “ensure freedom”.
These companies are only as popular as their idiot users make them, buy continuing to use them like addicted chimps.
They are not monopolies, they are cartels that work in collusion with each other via nebulous TOSs.
If you want to fix this, then demand clear and transparent TOSs that are to be treated like legally-binding contracts, that must be filed and registered with a federal department like a patent is. The Feds can structure them so that companies cant just publish a word-salad, but have to spell out their usage policies so that their is no ambiguity. This will have to be done for everyone like Google down to FR.
“However, to play devils advocate, you still need an ISP for your servers. You’re not going to start laying your own fiber backbone across the US too?”
You can put your servers up in your garage, or other rented building.
You don’t have to lay your own transport, just buy the circuits on monthly lease. The CARRIERS (AT&T/Sprint etc) will sell bandwidth to anyone. Even Russians and ISIS. They are precluded from discrimination by multiple regulations...on any basis.
Granted, it’s not cheap and you have to know what you are doing. But it can be done.
It’s common and done all the time.
Do you think Intel is dependent upon a registrar and ISP hosting service? General Motors?
I would bet dollars to doughnuts even Drudge rolls his own.
“You may not need Twitter or Facebook, but you do need a registrar and a host.
What happens in your hypothetical when those private entities say they are not subject to the first amendment?”
It may not be a first ammendment thing, but more of a public accommodation thing. For the answer to that, let’s refer to the recent private entities who declined to provide their services towards a cause they opposed. I’m speaking of the bakers, photographers, florists, property owners, etc., forced into servitude by supporters of militant homosexuals. I’m still trying to figure that one out. If you can be booted from a web hosting service, why can’t you be denied a cake?
We can play these games until hell freezes over but the answer is the same. More government does not mean more freedom. What are we gong to do, set up another government department to control (regulate/enforce) free speech?
All corporations have first amendment rights. Until recently, most retail corporations (other than CNN, etc) had the sense not to lockout half their potential market due to differences in political opinion. With CNN, et al, it’s easy just to ignore them. The same for facebook, twitter, youtube, google, et al. Or use what you can, ignore the rest. When it comes to internet providers, payment services, etc, it gets a bit tougher but we will survive. When it gets to banks and grocery stores, etc, then we’re well past time.
The founders knew that freedom is fleeting.
I believe that’s the next step.
I’ve said before that they won’t be coming around taking our guns from our cold dead hands.
All they have to do is freeze our bank accounts.
“But but they can’t do that!”
Look at how much they’ve done already?
That’s part of the push towards a cashless society.
Eventually, if they are not stopped they WILL do things like that.
I have always believed that’s what the whole mark of the beast deal in the bible was. It won’t be an actual physical mark, like a microchip or bar code(unless we do in fact go cashless and need it for commerce)but we will be sorted according to our thoughts and beliefs.
It’s starting now.
I believe there will come a time when people like us are actually hunted down and killed for being on the right side.
All the signs point that way.
Freezing bank accounts, denying employment and communications and aid are a method of soft kill.
If there are too many of us left after those measures are implemented they will start gunning us down on sight.
They are that evil.
IMO, that’s where we are now folks.
Good vs evil.
Period.
Exactly!!! Only problem is, with many things, the very people who object will never see this. #MAGA
You don’t have to lay your own transport, just buy the circuits on monthly lease. The CARRIERS (AT&T/Sprint etc) will sell bandwidth to anyone. Even Russians and ISIS. They are precluded from discrimination by multiple regulations...on any basis.
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Well the ISP seemed to me to be the weak point, but if you say the carriers/ISP never discriminate, then I don’t feel so discouraged.
I am not trying to be a negative nancy here, but it seems to be while most people on the street wouldn’t have any problem with Gab getting taken down by private entities, and not the government (which is my main point), Jim’s hypothetical question to was when would they possible be coming for FR or anyone else who they say crossed a line, and in some aspects of the IT world, there aren’t a lot of choices/competition.
The ISP and the Carrier are different entities.
Carriers are highly regulated.
ISPs are not regulated at all and can do anything they damn well please.
This was tried by the totalitarians back in the 30's. Did not work out well.
It’s different now because decent God fearing people are drastically outnumbered.
But we did get a lot of help from all the praying we did in 2016.
I get this free floating anxiety before every election and may be overreacting.
It is scary what is happening all over our country and the whole world though.
Indeed, and ISP typically only have infrastructure at the local level and have to buy data/bandwidth/connections from the carriers (or even mid level providers) much the consumers have to get bandwidth from their ISP, but in many locations in the US, you don’t have a lot of ISP choices. So I guess it’s possible to relocate your server farm when or if the though police decide to put pressure on your ISP, but I guess we’ll just chalk those expenses, downtime, and inconveniences up to the cost of free speech.
thought police*
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Justin Tabb, www.SubStratum.net,
has successfully ran an uncensored private internet,
inside China, Russia & Iran, defeating their firewalls.
As Google, Twitter, Facebook & deep state concentrate the internet into a ghetto, ...
The uncensored internet is coming.
A freudian typo if I ever saw one.
You can buy a high speed internet access circuit from AT&T in any zip code in America.
No services over the top, just transport.
Depending on zip code it could be cheap...or very, very expensive.
If you want to publish “controversial” content, you must avoid ISPs, hosting providers, registrars etc. But you must be knowledgeable enough to provide those services yourself. Or, know a consultant you can trust and afford.
There’s been enough conservative content denied services that it may be time for a conservative-owned hosting/isp service.
Datacenters, transport, registration...the whole nine yards.
Anyone around here have $40 mil to invest? Have another $25mil for first year operating costs?
I’ve got a plan:)
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