The maneuvers included tight vertical loops, a slow high angle-of-attack roll, a cobra maneuver, and the falling leaf, the ‘cobra’ and flat turns almost instantly point the nose in 270 and 180 degrees. Photo: Chen Xiao
Posted on 11/07/2018 6:42:01 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
The maneuvers included tight vertical loops, a slow high angle-of-attack roll, a cobra maneuver, and the falling leaf, the ‘cobra’ and flat turns almost instantly point the nose in 270 and 180 degrees. Photo: Chen Xiao
Hacking and infiltration does bear fruit.
The biggest upgrade for maneuverability would be to remove the pilot.
Some of these maneuvers slow the plane WAY DOWN and make it a ‘sitting duck’.
Who sold that technology to them?
IIRC, something similar was tried here and the pilots could not withstand the excessive g-force.
“Even so, the J-10 now has something the F-16 does not: thrust vectoring control capability that pushes its maneuverability into the stratosphere. The jet is able to steer its exhaust, allowing it to point its nose in one direction but actually propel itself in another.”
WOULD YOU BELIEVE my Navy pilot son, WHEN 8 years old, came up with this concept? That was 1996 when the YF-22 & YF-23 were in development, which he, of course, knew nothing about.
He had a 1” thick spiral-bound notebook & every day he’d do several pages of planes he designed with crazy-idea features......one of them was thrust-vectoring......
That reminds me, did Diane Fienchangstein ever find a new driver? Has she set up any Gofundmes lately?
“Vigorous Dragon”
Isn’t that a male enhancement product sold under the glass counter at the Asian stores?
What is the penalty when the PRC succeeds in industrial espionage..?
“We need to stay AHEAD, the better to protect our pilots..!”
Yeah, our companies get MORE money extracted from the taxpayers.
Anyone smell a scam..?
Sure, the PRC can pull off some impressive hacking but what of the hiring of completely Chinese engineers..? It’s not like they CHARGED into our companies, sat down, and refused to leave, no:
It’s sometimes like our companies WANT our gear to get stolen.
Chine is a huge & growing problem and with this midterm result we have further empowered the “Clown Posse”!
They’re in a “conflict” with us whether we recognize it or not!
Remember war is “diplomacy by other means”, modern war does not necessarily mean armies, planes, ships & fleets blowing each other up. Sun Tzu says the act of actual battle is a form of failure on the part of the commander. This does not mean actual occupation of said countries. In fact they would prefer not to. For them its an acknowledgment that they are the physical, cultural & moral superior to the “barbarian states” like ourselves. Also there is a historical revenge motive for the humiliation of the Opium Wars, Taiping Rebellion & forced Western trading enclaves. All these China blames the West for (including us!) as horrible disasters for China.
China as it has traditionally done, has always wanted hegemony over the other nations of the world. (In the Mao period exporting communism was an historical aberration!). Chinese communism today is just a modern form of enforcing traditional allegiance to China’s “Mandate of Heaven”. The “Imperial Way” as a governing system dressed up in modern clothes rather then it personified as an individual - the Emperor.
Concur, to a point. However, maneuvers like the cobra are intended when being pursued (bogie at six). Go vertical, almost stop, and make your pursuer over-shoot, then drop back to horizontal and onto his six. That’s the theory anyway.
Thrust vectoring is mostly an airshow trick. It’s a end game, out of energy knife fight advantage, but if you’re fighting like that you’ve already screwed up. Far more important factors are stealth, state of art radar and ir sensors, radar jamming built in, targeting helmets, real time built in networking etc etc.
Clinton and Barry sorros/sorto look to be involved.
That sounds real intelligent to try to fight an angles fight when energy fighters have ruled the day since the early forties. Also, in the days of all aspect missiles, designing for maneuverability needed for a tail chase is pretty meaningless.
The Hellcat never could out-maneuver a Zero.
Well, that was the theory in Top Gun, (the movie, not the school). In reality nobody has to be on your tail to hit you with a missile in this era. He can be far ahead of you, far above you, or even far off to the side, and hit the pickle button. The basket he has to put that missile into today is enormous, and not the very narrow one from the early Sidewinder days
And against Arabs those maneuvers might work. But against an actual trained fighter pilot, doing the cobra maneuver and coming to a stop is pretty much suicide. You’re left hanging in the air with zero energy and he’s got his full energy state. There’s very few good outcomes to that situation for cobra maneuver man.
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