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Russia Admits That It Can’t Retrofit Aircraft Carrier After Accident
The Diplomat ^ | November 09, 2018 | Franz-Stefan Gady

Posted on 11/09/2018 8:44:28 AM PST by Krosan

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To: Krosan
They need to tow it to Gdańsk and hire the Poles to fix it.
21 posted on 11/09/2018 9:47:12 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Krosan

Sucks to be them


22 posted on 11/09/2018 9:48:57 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Poles won’t do it of course as the whole purpose of this ship is to attack Poland. Well ... not the whole. Finland has docks big enough to repair this ship, whose whole purpose is to invade Finland. No matter how nicely the Russians ask I put my money on the Finns saying no.


23 posted on 11/09/2018 9:55:20 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan
When I read these articles, I am still surprised when I remember that the economy of Texas is larger than Russias'.

All they have is nukes.

24 posted on 11/09/2018 10:20:51 AM PST by blam
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To: Krosan
Six to 12 months to refloat the drydock 🤔 Has anyone other than the Russians chimed in on this ? That seems like an extremely long amount of time.
25 posted on 11/09/2018 10:25:49 AM PST by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: csvset

I’ma give an answer and it is a cheer for Ronald Reagan.

Before he crushed the communism it was 450 million. Nowadays the Russians want to be the evil emipire and whartnot and they are only 150 million. 3rd of what once was and I say with pure heart - Reagan won.


26 posted on 11/09/2018 10:35:03 AM PST by Krosan
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As a result of the sinking, a crane fell on the carrier’s deck leaving a hole above the waterline that measures 4 by 5 meters.

Whoa. Big hole. That's gonna make the DCA real cranky.

(DCA is Damage Control Assistant. Navy joke). Touchy business. Floating drydocks are, after all, designed to sink, just not quite that far. The drydock is lying on its side in 160 feet of water, so diving it won't be straightforward and raising it may be impossible. And they can't retrofit the carrier without it because they've been chopping the boilers out to replace them. Some details HERE. The concern is that the cost of the operation may make both drydock and carrier irrecoverable.

27 posted on 11/09/2018 10:41:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Krosan
You are right of course. I am thinking she was built at Gdańsk like the carrier they sold to China.
28 posted on 11/09/2018 10:52:41 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Krosan

Perhaps the Bremerton Naval Shipyard, Washington would be a good alternative ...


29 posted on 11/09/2018 11:04:51 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Billthedrill

Thanks, that was an informative article. No good options here Ivan, get the pos ship out of the way, then raise the pos dry dock and cry . What an expensive snafu, terminally fubar.


30 posted on 11/09/2018 11:07:58 AM PST by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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Its winter there and the water is really cold - not to mention the ice, and to make matters worse the dock which is in 40 feet of water is teetering on the edge of a 100 foot drop off ... So it will take a long time (like summer when the ice melts) if the dock has not slid too deep as to be unsalvageable - electrical systems wiring pumps etc if not damaged not will be totaled.


31 posted on 11/09/2018 11:10:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Don't tell me that you've lost another aircraft carrier ...


32 posted on 11/09/2018 11:11:43 AM PST by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: Krosan

I guess you’re right. South Korea could likely handle it. Comes down to who you trust I guess. That sucks for Russia.


33 posted on 11/09/2018 11:20:49 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Wow, they really made a mess of it. Fwiw, years ago I had an opportunity to go aboard a floating drydock at the Norfolk Naval Base. An article about the retirement of the Resolute.

Floating Drydock Resolute Ends 58 Years of Service to Navy

34 posted on 11/09/2018 11:24:33 AM PST by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Billthedrill

Good post.

The dry dock can be refloated in time.

The problem is that the only crane that can lift new boilers into place is laying across the flight deck and the Russians don’t have the ability to lift it off and repair it.

At this time it looks cheaper to write the whole shebang off, the dry dock, crane and aircraft carrier hull and simply build all new when they can afford it.


35 posted on 11/09/2018 11:43:18 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: W.

Pingpong balls

the gas or air needs to be contained


36 posted on 11/09/2018 11:53:25 AM PST by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Invade Honduras. Provide a military government)
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I’ve made oxyacetlyene box bombs that were crowd-pleasers back in the eighties.


37 posted on 11/09/2018 12:00:57 PM PST by W. (Just start shooting the bastards!)
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38 posted on 11/09/2018 4:02:26 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Krosan

At least the floating garbage fire is out.


39 posted on 11/09/2018 4:11:19 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

The flight deck would make a great setting for a miniature golf course.


40 posted on 11/09/2018 4:12:08 PM PST by Rebelbase
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