The Implicit Desperation of China’s “Social Credit” System

SFGate.com ^ | November 15, 2018 | Charles Hugh Smith

[Ms. AntiFeminazi]

Someone stole this idea from Black Mirror.

[DoughtyOne]

The Left wants that so bad here, they must be having convulsions just thinking about it.

[indthkr]

Global Socialism bump for later....

[gaijin]

China is really going back to authoriatarianism now, my friend says.

Very different environment there for foreigners now, he says.

[null and void]

"Force, in contrast, doesn’t scale: it’s enormously costly in capital and labor to monitor an entire populace and impose control and obedience."

Only if humans do all the heavy lifting.

Otherwise, Moore's law says it gets twice as powerful and half as expensive every couple years.

[aquila48]

Using wrong words is a good way to destroy the point you’re trying to make.

The word he should have used is “persuasion” not “power”. He could have cut the length of his article by 90% had he done so.

[BenLurkin]

Churchill saw this coming:

“But if we fail, then the whole world will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.”

[I want the USA back]

Governments tend toward totalitarianism, unless prevented from going that way. Give bureaucrats an opening, and they will find a way to gain complete control over you.

How long before using the “wrong” pronouns means 100 demerits? At 10,000 demerits you get no pension and are expelled from your home on to the street.

Do not underestimate them! If they could do it here, they would.

[ifinnegan]

And who is helping the communists do this?

Our computer technology companies.

[marktwain]

Force, in contrast, doesn’t scale: it’s enormously costly in capital and labor to monitor an entire populace and impose control and obedience.

But that is the interesting thing about the "Social Credit Score". It is not particularly costly to monitor and impose. It is done digitally, automatically, with little cost to it.

One only need monitor that the system "works" as intended, and adjust the algorithms accordingly.

[DoughtyOne]

Well, anyone dealing with China is aiding them against our nation, among other things. It’s a whole twisted system right now.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

How long will it be before SerpentZA and LaoWhy86 wake up?

[datura]

While riding a bullet train between Nanning and Lizhou this summer, I lightly brushed my fiance’s breast. Yes, on purpose.

Moments later, the message in both Mandarin and English on the train’s speakers mentioned “acting appropriately in public”.

It’s real. They watch EVERYTHING.

[Garth Tater]

"Moore's law says it gets twice as powerful and half as expensive every couple years."

There are always Unintended Consequences when govt becomes overbearing.

I have a feeling that book is going to come out with a Chinese edition in real life soon.

[Jmouse007]

Exactly what I was thinking. Be sure and “SMILE”, or else.

[unread]

"Give bureaucrats an opening, and they will find a way to gain complete control over you."

Lawyers... Who are the bureaucrats but lawyers..! The more lawyers we send to Washington the more laws will be forced on us.. That applies to state governments as well..

[DesertRhino]

” power is persuading people to cooperate, force is making them obey.”

So the choice is cooperate with the leaders, or obey them?
I think I see the problem. Our founders also saw it.

[dangerdoc]

You think they haven’t?

[who_would_fardels_bear]

They seem to be whistling past the graveyard lately. They hint at things but can't get that political. I know that SerpentZA comes from South Africa which is a very dangerous place right now for Whites, but China seems to becoming a much more dangerous place for foreigners as well.

The China Uncensored guy seems to know what's what, but I'm guessing he doesn't dare step foot on Chinese soil.