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Goodbye To California
Dr. Ron Martinelli

Posted on 12/02/2018 8:13:11 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country

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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
"Literally nothing substantive is good about L.A. anymore. An ever-growing homeless subculture populates the downtown area. The intoxicated, drug influenced, mentally impaired and criminals are everywhere. They literally surround Civic Center, federal buildings and courts – the so-called foundations and protectors of the Rule of Law and society. How ironic to be surrounded by the failures these very systems, liberal politicians and judges have created. Isn’t karma interesting to watch in real time?"

This is also SF, Oakland, Sacramento, and unfortunately now San Diego.

Bus them all to Napa & Silicon and watch the sh!t hit the fan.

21 posted on 12/02/2018 9:00:45 AM PST by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: DesertRhino

This ex-Calif voted for Cruz and Trump!!! But I know whats going on here too. They’ll start poopin on the streets of Austin too. :<(((((


22 posted on 12/02/2018 9:01:54 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“Ah Texas? Yes Texas is definitely next. So many Californiana are moving there including liberals. Can’t just keep picking up and leaving. Someone has to stay the course and fight eek.”
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AMEN! Fight or be conquered!!


23 posted on 12/02/2018 9:05:35 AM PST by freddy005
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To: StAnDeliver

My first 13 years was in Santa Barbara. If one read the dialog that I also posted I said than when retirement came, if I still had lived in Santa Barbara I might have stayed. But we had moved to Orange County in ‘85.

That said, when I visited Santa Barbara about a year ago I was shocked while walking down State Street. The homeless where ALL OVER the place. It was nothing like it use to be.


24 posted on 12/02/2018 9:07:22 AM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: polymuser
It’s not the loosely defined and questionable T.E.A. party.

While I'm not saying the Tea Party is the answer, remember it was strangled in the crib by Lois Lerner, no doubt acting at Zero's direction.

25 posted on 12/02/2018 9:13:18 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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To: McGavin999

It’s spreading throughout the entire west. Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico are now near single party Leftist. The results in 10 or so years will be the same as in CA. Arizona is threatened...which leaves only Idaho, Montana, Alaska and Wyoming. And inroads have been made in Montana and Alaska. The entire country is swirling down the toilet bowl.


26 posted on 12/02/2018 9:19:52 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
“The concept of the “third world” has evolved to describe countries that suffer from low economic development, high levels of poverty and little to no ability to utilize natural or economic resources.” French demographer Alfred Sauvey, 1952.

Alfred Sauvey left off the part about a relatively small cadre of out-of-touch arrogant 'elites'... which the new 3rd world state of California also has...

27 posted on 12/02/2018 9:20:11 AM PST by GOPJ (The enemy of the United States pays for drum circles at 'protests'. Watch for them.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

” No, California is still an incredibly wealthy place, offering a very high quality of life for the select few that can actually afford it”

That’s is literally the definition of third world. The place is a crowded hellhole, everything is illegal..BUT if you are wealthy and can go to one of the cloistered elite enclaves, it’s really neat.


28 posted on 12/02/2018 9:21:04 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

It’s the little things that suck Californians in. They will vote for someone who wants a few “reasonable” things. They just want to make sure drilling isn’t allowed near residential areas. And just a few more environmental laws “just make sense”. And banning shooting hogs from a helicopter “isn’t going to affect real hunters”. And then a few “common sense” gun laws will be suggested.

Sorry, but it has been the rule.


29 posted on 12/02/2018 9:27:42 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: StAnDeliver

The reason those places are so bad is because Orange County buses all of their problem populations to skid row. It looks bad because everyone tolerates having leper colonies vs making local government tackle these problems head-on. The only real problem he alludes to is the cost of housing and parking. That issue unfortunately is bipartisan. CA is so expensive to move bc NIMBYs refuse to allow enough housing to be built in enough density. So demand for housing way outstrips supply. Lots of middle-income people can buy a lot more housing in TX because TX doesn’t restrict construction and density.

The other real problem CA has is that public sector pensions are a ticking time bomb. It is 15-20 years behind Illinois but it’ll get there eventually. Of
Course if you asked the article’s author to help solve the problem by accepting a pension buyout or taking less $, i could tell you his answer.


30 posted on 12/02/2018 9:34:41 AM PST by socalgop
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To: Blue House Sue

GDP is not how you define third world. Mexico and Canada both hover around 1.5 Trillion GDP, roughly comparable to Texas.

Texas and Canada are not third world. Mexico and California are. It has to do with a corrupt oligarchy, rampant crime, and other breakdowns of rule of law, a degraded culture...and an elite who live a good life apart from the life the overwhelming majority experience.

But nice try and thank you for giving us an example of why Californians need to stay out of Texas.


31 posted on 12/02/2018 9:35:29 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

As far as crime, Texas and California have the exact same Murder Rate.


32 posted on 12/02/2018 9:44:10 AM PST by Blue House Sue
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
"I challenge the author to drive from the international airport to the downtown center of any major (10M+) city in the world, and get there in less than an hour and park their car for less than $30."

Quite do-able in Houston.

33 posted on 12/02/2018 9:49:34 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: dp0622

Your post is about how I feel. Yes, LA is a shoothole in so many ways and in so many places. But like you, I feel like it might be possible for CA to move toward normal again. Like you, I’m not sure, though.

But I don’t visit LAX and downtown for a couple days, go home and bitch. I live in the suburban hills every day and night and I see plenty of good families and people here, who can do sports every day of the year, ride horses, play golf, ski in a couple hours, surf, and there is hiking in the city where you are “in the country” (sadly much of it burnt now near me but it will come back). People who own their homes can still make life work here, though it wold be easier in Texas or elsewhere, sure. But with family here and weather than cannot be beat, there are still temptations to stay. There is also a nice privacy shield that maybe midwesterners find unpleasant, because there is less friendliness here, but also with our homes enclosed in gates and walls we really can live whatever life we want and our neighbors do not know. Or care.

I am kind of hoping that this crazed “swallowing poison” politics here finally catches up to the stupid voters. After a while of doubling down on “we need more pathetic unproductive needies; get out, earners and taxpayers!” Surely they will realize they have killed their golden goose and we can see a pendulum swing to “hey, this personal responsibility thing, my kid learned it in kindergarten, MAYBE we adults should have slightly higher expectations of each other??”


34 posted on 12/02/2018 9:52:16 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: freddy005

“AMEN! Fight or be conquered!!”

Since the forces of evil defraud their way into power and the Stupid Party won’t do anything about it, what do you suggest?


35 posted on 12/02/2018 9:58:46 AM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

Thank you. See my previous. You can (and I do) drive along freeways and downtown and see disgusting piles of homeless crap (including the ill humans left out to rot there). You do note that most people in your line at the supermarket might be other than 2nd gen American. But life in most suburbs is still fairly decent. And more than, in nice places.

The other day, some people didn’t show up for events and practices because “they couldn’t leave the house because it was raining.” Other places would laugh hysterically at people so spoiled that rain means they don’t go outside.

The weather is still pretty magical. By the ocean, in the beautiful town where I used to live in the South Bay, 95% of the year’s days were between the temps of 65-75 F. Highs and lows. It don’t get no better.


36 posted on 12/02/2018 9:59:25 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: dp0622
I'm afraid that our "democrazy" will be the death to all of us.....

first you have the ever increasing sloths who live only on our tax dollars/welfare/etc....they'll never vote for fiscal sanity or fairness and why should they...they drink.drug.eat.drink and play video games or watch tv all day if they aren't at the casino banging on the machines....

but the worse situation are the govt workers.....no slow down, no inflation, no deflation, no budget woes ever impede their obscene pension scheming....they will also never vote for fiscal sanity....and again, why should they....

37 posted on 12/02/2018 10:05:09 AM PST by cherry (official troll)
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To: polymuser

there can only be 2 viable parties in our system....we hate the rinos but our choice is support them or hand more and more over to the communist rat party.....


38 posted on 12/02/2018 10:06:26 AM PST by cherry (official troll)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country

“I was staying at a hotel near LAX and my mileage commute to downtown L.A. was a mere twelve miles. However, it took me every bit of one hour and twenty minutes to arrive at my destinatio

We lived in SoCal and DH took a position near Knoxville, TN. After our house-hunting trip we drove to the Knoxville aorport at the end of a terrible snow storm. We asked ourselves, “Did we make the right decision to move to Tennessee?”

After the flight, we were doing the 40-mile trip from LAX to home in Simi Valley. In the middle of the night it can be done in under an hour, easily. It took us 2.5 hours on the 101 and 405. Yes. We made the right decision. Definitely.


39 posted on 12/02/2018 10:20:50 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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To: Yaelle

Great post.

You know where i live and what folks from TX and and other very conservative states sometimes don’t get is that 38 or even 32 is still a LOT of people in states our size,

And we don’t live in “cesspools”

We live in nice neighborhoods with great neighbors who think like is for the most part.

CA’s problem, which makes it Much harder to get an R is that it is near an ENTIRE COUNTRY trying to let MILLIONS of people in and they get to vote!!

We have illegals here.

you nave an invasion.


40 posted on 12/02/2018 10:21:48 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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