What's The Endgame For The Rebellion By France's Working Poor?

Townhall.com ^ | December 5, 2018 | Townhall.com Staff

[Vigilanteman]

Just a few days ago, there was a reliable U.S. survey of who tapped government resources the most for welfare benefits relative to their numbers.

Not surprisingly, illegal aliens were on the top of the list, followed in order by legal aliens, long term residents, naturalized immigrants and, dead last, U.S. born citizens.

And, yet, we are told ad naseum by the media elites that we need immigration (legal and illegal not distinguised) because native born Americans are not reproducing at replacement level and aren't the boon to the economy that immigrants are. We're old, fat, lazy and stupid. Immigrants are young, fit, ambitious and smart.

[kearnyirish2]

I’ve posted countless times that these immigrants are trafficked here as CONSUMERS, not workers; local and state governments in various areas need them to keep housing, public school seats, and store aisles occupied (with taxpaying Americans footing the bill). They are unproductive “placeholders”, nothing more - but the US is running out of taxable Americans.

[KyCats]

There is a new dawning in socialist Europe with the influx of migrants. For years the people of each country all participated in the system with the expectation that each would receive a similar amount to what he or she contributed. No more!

Now they are living in a world that we in the US have known for decades. The French are paying ever higher taxes but a huge percentage of government largesse is going to people who have contributed nothing and who despise the society that is providing for them.

The author asks “What is the endgame for the French working poor?” Hard to say how it will turn out. But either they fight for themselves or accept state sanctioned extermination.

[kearnyirish2]

Here in the northeast these immigrants are being trafficked to areas where we’d otherwise have ghost towns - because industry has left and now the “new economy” is “gibsmedat ranching”. The rest of the country pays to keep an imported underclass here so the government worker caste doesn’t shut down due to lack of clients.

[Vigilanteman]

In September 2016, I was suddenly thrown out of work on the basis of a phony excuse when the real reason was I had accumulated too much vacation time which the former company found attractive to steal.

To slow the cash burn until I found another job (at age 61), I applied for unemployment which they countered by contesting the filing (didn't want their rates going up). I countered further by contesting their filing and also filed for food stamp benefits.

Five months later, I had a similar job with an honest company, won my case, got retroactive unemployment benefits for the five months and filed to get off food stamps.

Long story short is that while I was away at the new job, my home voice mailbox was full of offers for new government programs due to my age, income, yada yada yada. I finally had to send in copies of my paycheck to get off food stamps and, even then, they ruled that they payments would be suspended, not because I was ineligible now, but because I didn't want them.

The New Trump economy sending people back to work was certainly a good thing for me and for society as a whole, but not for the gibsmedat welfare state. They seemed to think I was crazy to give up food stamps, the Obamaphone and eligibility for other glorious government programs just to go back to work.

FWIW, the new job pays WAY better than the old job and I don't have a crook for a boss. The crooks actually had to hire two people to take my place, at least one of whom was higher up on the victimology totem pole.

BTW, the food stamp allowance was actually more than what we spend on groceries now and I now understand why the food stamp crowd fills their shopping carts with prime cuts of meat, frozen food and other convenience items whereas the hoi polli get basics.

[kearnyirish2]

Congratulations, and good for you!

They didn’t want you off the programs because they make a living only if there are “clients”. We pretend we have people with “food insecurity” while many of the very same people are sickened with a diabetes EPIDEMIC. At the same time, if they found out five years later that you shouldn’t have been receiving those benefits, they’d dock your pay to recover the money - very smart of you to persist.

One of the concerns about mandated $15/hour wages is it may push “clients” off eligibility lists - and that particular sector of the welfare industry may face cuts.

In my work experience I see plenty of older white men pushed out and replaced with two women - sometimes minorities, but usually white (at higher cost); I’ve deduced that in the workplace y=2x because this pattern is repeated often. Back during the financial crisis of 2007/2008, those financial firms in the NYC area that weren’t moving their operations overseas altogether often swapped staffs just to re-set the clock on wages, vacation time, etc. - a total disgrace, and complete age discrimination. They’ve also brought in tons of Asians to replace Americans in the financial sector just the same way they did with tech. Of course Americans can do the jobs; they just expect things like lunch breaks, sick days, and weekends...

[MarMema]

On fb they are planning a protest for this Sat. I suggest you get on twitter if you are not there yet.

[MarMema]

Who is protesting? "The white middle class, the forgotten middle class in France," said Famke Krumbmüller, an expert in French politics at OpenCitiz political consultancy firm in Paris. Krumbmüller said the people protesting were those who pay the high French taxes and social charges — which cover benefits such as the state pension and unemployment insurance — but feel they get little in return because they are not the poorest in society."They're fed up with the rising prices and the cost of living," she explained. "They feel like the political elite is forgetting about them."

We tell them our concerns and we elect them, then when they get into power they seem astonished when we come out on the streets like today to protest. It’s as if the protests have just fallen from the sky, when we’ve already told them how we feel. Above all, President Macron has not listened to the ordinary French and doesn’t understand the concerns of their daily lives. When he appears on television we have the impression he is uncomfortable with normal people, that there is a certain contempt for us. I didn’t vote for him. I haven’t voted for a while. When I did, I would describe myself as moderate right, centre right.

Many, many yellow vests are decent, frustrated, suffering people. They no longer believe that any of the mainstream political movements – or even Marine Le Pen’s Far Right or Jean-Luc Mélenchon Hard Left – will do anything to help them. They talk of a new “movement of the people and for the people” but have declined so far to choose recognised leaders or to put forward a united programme.

[MarMema]

See my links in number ten.

[MarMema]

ping to links in number 10.

[Theoria]

Nuts. The protest started well but now has added ‘all’. People are smashing shops and looting. This is no Tea Party group. Large trade groups, youth, and mostly men. All types are running around claiming to be yellow jackets. socialist, anarchist, nationalist, they are only united on the surface.

[discostu]

Eventually people get bored and go home.