Posted on 12/18/2018 11:35:27 AM PST by Liberty7732
aka....Comey should have kept is mouth shut....”I wouldn’t have gotten away with it”....
From my vantage point, here's the dilemma in this case as I see it:
1. If Flynn were to fight this case, he would most likely win -- maybe even win so big that the FBI and Mueller's team would be cited for prosecutorial misconduct.
2. If Flynn were to fight this case, Mueller's team would simply drop the charges for lying (since they can't present any of the evidence of his lying -- from the Kislyak wiretaps -- in a court of law).
3. Instead, Flynn would be prosecuted for the more serious Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) violations.
Any Freepers have any insight on this? If you're a lawyer representing a client in Flynn's position, how would you go about dealing with this dilemma?
“The shock associated with the defeat led to a zealous effort to identify and understand the extent and machinations of this interference and to discover whether the Trump campaign was in any way involved”
Bunk. They knew damn well Trump and his people weren’t involved. How could they be? They were the ones who started the hoax in the first place in the summer with the Steele fabrication.
You are absolutely correct about the illicit FISA warrant and associated surveillance.
The Flynn case, on the other hand, is built on legitimate surveillance of Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Flynn's communications with Kislyak had nothing to do with FISA warrants. There is no FISA warrant needed to intercept communications of a foreign diplomat.
So, basically he was under investigation, they didn’t let him know that he was under investigation, they didn’t advise him of his Miranda Warnings and they interviewed him, under those circumstances anyway. Hmmmmmmm..... in REAL law enforcement investigations this is called, The Fruit From The Poisonous Tree. And everything obtained from it should be tossed. But, this is the FBI(Famous But Incompetent) and the DOJ at its most corrupt, so none of those rules matter.
However, the General should have been smarter than to talk to a bunch of flat foot FBI weenies who didn’t have the clearance to know what he knew and did.
That’s true, just taking issue with the notion that the Clinton campaign and the Obama government had any real “concern” over “Russian involvement”. They knew there wasn’t any and all they were trying to do was take ordinary situations and exaggerate them into something they were not: like the incoming NSA having an offhand talk with an ambassador, which is an ordinary event. And one that the FBI is almost never invited to or involved in.
And I'm sure Comey NEVER expected Flynn to opt out....even temporarily....which is why Comey confessed to "I wouldn't have gotten away with it"....
Is Comey due back before Congress for another amnesia session?
Bump!
They treated Flynn like he was a subject of investigation (which the FBI clearly knew he was because they already had surveillance information on him, the ‘transcripts’). Clearly the FBI engaged in illegal conduct.
FBI could not get away with this with even a mafia suspect.
What a mess. Praying for Flynn. This is so unfair.
And he should have disclosed that he was working as an agent for another county. It is somewhat a shame that conservatives forget this detail....but it is a pretty big deal.
That said, Comey/McCabe and the rest of the traitors working for Obama should be facing a firing squad.
Good article. I will keep my fingers crossed that larger forces are in play and that in the end, Gen. Flynn will be 100% vindicated.
Mueller must have known about the compromised interview of Flynn from the beginning. He knew Flynn had been advised against having legal representation. He knew the FBI deliberately withheld the warning about the legal consequences of lying to the FBI, yet he still pursued this case against Flynn. I don’t understand how any competent, or ethical lawyer/prosecutor could, in good faith, move ahead with charges against an American citizen when any evidence gleaned from that person was based on the failure of the FBI to follow standard protocol. Thus, the so-called evidence itself is compromised because the way the interview was obtained, and the methods used were inappropriate, and not standard procedure of the FBI. The fact that FBI officials argued about how the interview was handled is proof of that.
You don't expect a crowd that's the same as back-shooting Taliban Muzzies to be disguised as American fibbie agents...
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...
We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation....
"We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Shades of Richard Jewell?
“As part of another investigation, we’d like you to read this script admitting to planting a bomb”.
I remember the Jewell case....he died young...
What put Flynn on the FBI's radar with regard to Kislyak were his text and cell phone conversations with Kislyak -- which were intercepted by U.S. intelligence as is routinely done with foreign officials -- while Flynn was vacationing in the Dominican Republic.
I'm no expert in U.S. intelligence matters, but I'd presume that conducting cell phone and text communications with a foreign official while I'm on vacation in a Third World sh!t-hole is probably the dumbest thing I could possibly do.
I suggest we set the FBI to the same standards as other law enforcement agencies.
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