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Trump shutdown moves leaves GOP senators in disbelief
the hill ^ | December 20, 2018

Posted on 12/20/2018 11:50:33 AM PST by SMGFan

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To: JBW1949

The point was prescient across the different threads dealing with the exact same subject, hence the reposts.


101 posted on 12/20/2018 9:30:58 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Mariner

1. Vote $5B in the house in the few days while we still have a majority there.
2. Send the entire senate home because maybe we don’t have 51 votes there yet.
3. Government shuts down until senate returns.
4. House bill sits in senate’s in-box.
5. Senate returns with more Rs and fewer Ds.
6. Senate passes the house bill on roll call vote.
7. President signs the bill. Shutdown ends with his intended result.
Just Brilliant!


102 posted on 12/20/2018 11:44:57 PM PST by c-five
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To: loveliberty2

Churchill quote bump


103 posted on 12/21/2018 12:11:16 AM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
The president's power to convene special congressional sessions has exactly nothing to do with your fantasy of federal law enforcement arresting senators or congressmen.

My best guess is that you're confusing Truman's special sessions with the handful of times senators have been rounded up and returned to the chamber by act of the Senate, not the president
104 posted on 12/21/2018 1:57:19 AM PST by aNYCguy
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To: editor-surveyor
This betrays a remarkable ignorance of history as well as the Constitution.

Can you point out where in the Constitution the executive branch is given the power to "make the legislative branch vote?"
105 posted on 12/21/2018 2:01:39 AM PST by aNYCguy
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To: Kazan

Cheap labor = slaves.


106 posted on 12/21/2018 2:23:34 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: chris37

Merry Christmas...troll.


107 posted on 12/21/2018 2:34:33 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: SMGFan

Don’t shut it down, eliminate half the damned worthless federal gub mint.
Make those mutes they call employees get real jobs.


108 posted on 12/21/2018 4:52:15 AM PST by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: trebb

Oh look at little trebb still thinking about me.

How adorable.


109 posted on 12/21/2018 6:15:40 AM PST by chris37 (No wall? No vote.)
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To: aNYCguy
>your fantasy of federal law enforcement arresting senators or congressmen

But it was such a lovely fantasy... The Democrats have so many fantasies. Can't I keep my one under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th?

Yes, I may be conflating things. I recalled the President had some constitutional power over Congress which was being overlooked and I recalled dim old memories of tales of Congresscritters (Senate vs. House should be similar) being compelled to return. I also recalled the fairly recent events of WI Rat legislators hiding out in IL and a previous episode of Rats from TX hiding out in OK or visa versa. And I dimly recall cases in which the executive branch provided assistance to Congressmen attempting to return to DC. What I found in the fine print of Article II wasn't precisely what I'd thought I'd find. Perhaps it is the legislative body that has the power to compel its members to return, but if the President can compel them into session the legislative bodies procedures to enable a session should be triggered in some way. But I can't parse Senate/House rules as easily as I can the Constitution. I'm confident John Adams, who IIRC wrote the initial Senate rules, wouldn't have missed such point.

Perhaps there is potential for compulsion in a quorum call and I can have my fantasy less directly, but I don't know the fine print of how that works or how its triggered. If Trump calls the Senate into session and only one shows up could he trigger action to compel the rest of his mates to return? I'd hope it wouldn't have to be called by the body's internal leader as I can conceive of Mitch hiding out in KY.

110 posted on 12/21/2018 6:52:45 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
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To: CottonBall
"Liberalism must have had a different definition back then."

Indeed, it did--"classical."

111 posted on 12/21/2018 6:47:58 PM PST by loveliberty2 (`)
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To: loveliberty2

Great list

Thanks for posting :)


112 posted on 12/23/2018 11:04:18 PM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter)
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