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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims Trump lied about immigrants in Oval Office address
AOL ^ | 1/9/2018 | Rachel Kleinman

Posted on 01/09/2019 6:41:20 AM PST by antidemoncrat

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“Immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than native-born Americans.”

Notice the conflation between legal immigrants and illegal immigrants.

I read one of these "studies". It was designed to deceive, rather than illuminate.

As I recall, the "study" looked at relatively new immigrants compared to other groups in their neighborhoods.

It did *not* compare native populations with illegal alien populations.

An obvious problem is that most immigrants start out poor.

So they live in poor neighborhoods, which likely have a high proportion of black ghettos, and high crime rates. So the "immigrant" crime rates are lower than that of the neighborhoods where they start out.

As I said, intended to deceive.

Mexico, where most illegal aliens come from, has a homicide rate several times higher than the U.S. average rate. But the murder rate in black urban areas is several times higher than the Mexico murder rate!

41 posted on 01/09/2019 7:33:48 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: antidemoncrat

She uses the generic “immigrants”, whom Trump praised, and left out illegal. The illegal immigrants cannot possibly have a lower crime rate, as they start out with a batting average of 1.000.


42 posted on 01/09/2019 7:48:17 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: antidemoncrat
“In the actual address, there was falsehood after falsehood, and we have to make sure we get the facts straight,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

Occasional Cortex ought to get her facts straight before she starts making claims about falsehoods.

What is false about the American citizens who were killed by illegal aliens? And others are still being killed by illegal aliens? Pretending that it never happened does not register.

43 posted on 01/09/2019 7:48:34 AM PST by olezip
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To: antidemoncrat

“Immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than native-born Americans.”
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She starts off with a blatant falsehood. the people in question are not immigrants, they are illegal aliens.


44 posted on 01/09/2019 7:55:02 AM PST by photodawg
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To: antidemoncrat

I missed the part where Trump said there were immigrants in Oval Office. They must have been off camera. How did they get past the WH wall?

I’m concerned.


45 posted on 01/09/2019 8:00:40 AM PST by Ken Regis
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To: antidemoncrat; Liz; AuntB; greyfoxx39; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; ...

and illegal aliens commit crimes at a far HIGHER rate than native born Americans...

and President Trump wasn’t talking about IMMIGRANTS...

He was talking about illegal aliens...


46 posted on 01/09/2019 8:01:28 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: antidemoncrat

Trump didn’t say anything about immigrants. Any Democrat who says he did is lying. Because they refuse to address the ILLEGAL immigration problem. Which is what Trump talked about.


47 posted on 01/09/2019 8:05:01 AM PST by Durbin
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To: antidemoncrat

The obnoxious girl with the crazy eyes and little girl voice chimes in with her crap.


48 posted on 01/09/2019 8:05:11 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (President Trump is right! The media IS the enemy of the people!)
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To: marktwain
Agree. I skimmed one paper on immigration (illegal and legal) and crime rate and found that there are lot of diverging definitions and some "interesting" conclusions that could or could not be true. Let see:

An early statement in the paper is:

"According to Fox News (2015): “Statistics show the estimated 11.7 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. account for 13.6 percent of all offenders sentenced for crimes committed in the U.S. Twelve percent of murder sentences, 20 percent of kidnapping sentences and 16 percent of drug trafficking sentences are meted out to illegal immigrants.” "

Looks like this is a clear over-representation unless the illegals are many many more than is presently admitted.

Then later on the paper states:

"Between 2010 and 2014, foreign-born persons were about 13% of the total U.S. population (Figure 1)."

But all foreign born persons are not illegal aliens.

49 posted on 01/09/2019 8:19:03 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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50 posted on 01/09/2019 8:29:49 AM PST by Beowulf9
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100% of illegal aliens are committing at least one crime. That is why their official identification in federal law is “illegal”.


51 posted on 01/09/2019 8:37:04 AM PST by Gritty (Illegals voting and Democrat voter fraud are not problems to liberals.They are solutions.-KSchlicter)
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To: Jamestown1630; antidemoncrat

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It’s interesting how they blur things and misdirect by using the blanket term ‘immigrant’, instead of ‘illegal immigrant’. Trump was discussing the latter, not ‘immigrants’.
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The Left has already won the language war it would appear

You misspelled ‘illegal alien’. IMMIGRANTS go through a process...LEGALLY.


52 posted on 01/09/2019 8:56:01 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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That stupid broad needs to shut her piehole. What a fumbduck...

I'm starting to miss David Hogg.
53 posted on 01/09/2019 9:41:57 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: antidemoncrat

If this barrier saves just one life, it is worth it... where have I heard this before?


54 posted on 01/09/2019 12:06:25 PM PST by snowtigger (Deplorable, and proud of it!!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Her little girl voice is anything but.


55 posted on 01/09/2019 1:45:40 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

The brain eating virus she carries is highly contagious so be careful.


56 posted on 01/09/2019 1:47:06 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: HighSierra5

That’s because sun is bleaching them out. (Toothy grin).


57 posted on 01/09/2019 1:50:20 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Not A Snowbird

I’m sorry. The saviouress has spoken. Heed her words if you want to be saved.


58 posted on 01/09/2019 1:53:07 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: jdsteel

It seemed to me what was missing was the organ grinder and the organ grinder monkey’s hat.


59 posted on 01/09/2019 1:56:29 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Ken Regis

Maybe that was about all the Muslim Brotherhood folks Obama had in the WH.


60 posted on 01/09/2019 2:01:13 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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