Posted on 01/15/2019 2:29:18 PM PST by billorites
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Just read that the THIRD leading cause of death, behind Heart Attacks and Cancer, is HOSPITALIZATION! Those who can avoid medical “care” today are blessed. You may end up living longer without it, than with it.
Hard to make a judgement on this. Maybe these patients were beyond help. Innocent until proven guilty.
Even though the patient is terminally ill. You shouldn’t help them go before their time!
I’m not saying he’s innocent. Just respect the process.
It depends on the stage they are in.
If they are beyond help and certain to die in a few days, it’s just inhumane to keep them alive. And yes, there are medical situations like this.
I’m talking about people dying of cancer and other diseases where the outcome is irrefutable and all they are doing is suffering discomfort and the family going through hell standing by for the event to take place.
This can linger on for a while, and family members are forced to be there 24/7 until it happens.
If they move the process forward, I do not think Good looks down on this in anger.
Paging Dr. Kevorkian.
Huge FYI on pharmaceuticals which also wreck havoc on the American people!
Why are FDA Inspections So Ineffective and Disappointing?
Are you losing faith in the FDA? Kaiser Health News reports on a scandal about FDA inspections and tainted medicine. How long has this been happening?
We have long worried about foreign drug manufacturing plants. That’s because the FDA has limited ability to inspect these facilities and detect problems that could lead to drug contamination. The agency must alert foreign drug makers well in advance of an inspection, blunting the effectiveness of this approach.
The KHN report suggests that even in the US, where FDA inspectors show up unannounced, inspections may not find all the problems that they should. Within a year of passing inspection, 65 drug manufacturing facilities had to recall almost 300 products.
Over the last decade or so we have been tracking FDA inspections. What we discovered is troubling to say the least. It is also amazing how fast these scandals disappear without a trace.
We do not understand why health professionals, patients and politicians have lost their sense of outrage. Too many people, it seems, have the attention span of gnats. Shortly after a story breaks, everyone loses interest. It’s on to the next news cycle and business as usual.
http://fortune.com/2013/05/15/dirty-medicine/
https://khn.org/news/how-tainted-drugs-reach-market-make-patients-sicker/
“…Since the start of 2013, pharmaceutical companies based in the U.S. or abroad have recalled about 8,000 medicines, comprising billions of tablets, bottles and vials that have entered the U.S. drug supply and made their way to patients’ medicine cabinets, hospital supply closets and IV drips, a Kaiser Health News investigation shows. The recalls represent a fraction of the medicines shipped each year. But the flawed products contained everything from dangerous bacteria or tiny glass particles to mold — or too much or too little of the drug’s active ingredient.
Over the same period, 65 drug-making facilities recalled nearly 300 products within 12 months of passing a Food and Drug Administration inspection — as was the case with the stool softener, according to a KHN analysis of recall notices and inspection records kept by the FDA…”
This goes on all the time. I don’t know the specific dosages etc.. but from what I understand, hospitals and hospices easing the process of death not just by alleviating pain but also by actually speeding it up by high dosages of painkillers (and by withholding food, water and antibiotics) is nearly universal. And it goes on in “Catholic” hospitals despite the withholding of those essentials being clearly contrary to Catholic teaching.
I have never seen an excessive dose given and would not tolerate it if it was. Food and water are always available but patients may not be able to take much in due to their condition drugs given to relieve pain and anxiety are a blessing but a lethal dose just for the sake of a lethal dose is a step too far.
I suspect all geriatric specialists do this. It’s called palliative sedation. If a patient is near death and in pain, keep giving them more pain killer until it relieves their pain.
I cannot understand your thinking. So it’s okay for a doctor to give a lethal dose and it all depends on his personal judgment? As long as it’s a doctor we should respect his decision?
I have mixed feelings about this. Life is sacred but it is also inhumane to leave the dying to suffer in pain.
But this sounds very much like murder.
See Post #15
That’s great. Maybe “nearly universal” was overstating it. As a non-medical person, my experience is only anecdotal, from what I’ve seen personally and heard from friends.
It depends on the stage they are in.
If they are beyond help and certain to die in a few days, it’s just inhumane to keep them alive. And yes, there are medical situations like this.
Do you want some doctor on his own determining who should die and when?
There is a big difference between dying from being exposed to an infection in a hospital and intentionally being fed enough pain killers to stop your heart because some doctor has decided its time for you to die.
And lets not even get into the fact most people end up in a hospital when they are gravely ill and hence, more likely to die even before they get there... So you are going to obviously have more people die in hospitals than in other places.
Correlation is not causation.
No. In consultation with family in the last hours, yes.
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