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Colorado Senate Passes Bill Nixing Electoral College in Favor of Popular Vote
Above Top Secret ^ | 4FEB19 | Editorial staff

Posted on 02/04/2019 11:50:59 PM PST by vannrox

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To: vannrox

They’re too stupid to know they’re disenfranchising their own voters by doing this.


61 posted on 02/05/2019 5:44:31 AM PST by KevinB (If I'm ever arrested, I'm switching parties.)
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To: Magnatron
This will work until the votes have to go to a Republican. Then it’ll get repealed.

I would LOVE to see that scenario, for the popcorn value alone. Jimmy Carter had proposed doing away with the EC until it was pointed out to him that there were scenarios where this would not always work in favor of the Democrats.


62 posted on 02/05/2019 5:45:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: vannrox

It’s unconstitutional.


63 posted on 02/05/2019 6:13:38 AM PST by Spok
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To: vannrox

...one persons take on how this unfolds, I see two points:

1. States like CA will be blue but we could write them off and still win due to the EC. The amount of voter fraud was irrelevant. Now we won’t win and we now care about all voter fraud. We will demand changes to guarantee integrity.

2. It leads to civil war.

#2 may happen even with #1 resulting in changes - because not good enough. No changes guarantee #2.

The left truly believe they can just keep pulling these kinds of moves and it will only ever remain in the sphere of politics. They don’t even consider there are people that understand what this country is about and that they’re destroying it. Once destroyed they’re going to do something about it.


64 posted on 02/05/2019 6:30:06 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: vannrox

Most if not all of these profound leftist laws just passed by the states are preemptive swings for the fences, in anticipation of a different court without Justice Ginsberg. They will be challenged and presented before a non-Ginsberg court.


65 posted on 02/05/2019 6:48:42 AM PST by lurk
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To: Jeff Chandler

That’s the way I read it too. The individual in CO just lost their right to vote for President. The national popular vote over rides their votes regardless of what it might be.

Dem’s cheat. It’s what they do. It’s all they do.


66 posted on 02/05/2019 6:50:21 AM PST by Boomer ( Leftism is toxic poison to a free society.)
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To: vannrox

Fine, then they don’t get to announce who Colorado is electing. You want to play, you play by the rules otherwise take you ball and go home.


67 posted on 02/05/2019 6:57:08 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.S)
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To: stremba

Imagine if Baton Rouge goes rogue!


68 posted on 02/05/2019 7:02:07 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election!)
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To: Reverend Wright

all the liberal States he lost who pass this thing will have to award him their Electoral College votes after all.


No, they wouldn’t. They’d simply convene the legislature and change the law back in the time between the November popular election and the December electoral college election.


69 posted on 02/05/2019 7:04:36 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Jeff Chandler

Under this scheme it is possible for CO to award its electoral votes to a candidate that got zero votes in the state.


70 posted on 02/05/2019 7:07:15 AM PST by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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To: vannrox
On the surface this appears to be constitutional because each state is allowed to decide how it assigns its own electors.

However, it is Unconstitutional as it is in DIRECT violation of the Interstate Compact provision in Article 1 Section 10 of the Constitution: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

71 posted on 02/05/2019 7:10:41 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: taxesareforever
Smokin too much weed.

But wait!! That's not all...We'll be voting on mushrooms later this year!!

magic mushrooms

72 posted on 02/05/2019 7:12:20 AM PST by SGCOS
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To: albie
Can they do this?

Nebraska and Maine split their electoral votes. Sure, they can do it. But, in effect, it disenfranchises ALL of their citizens in presidential elections.

It would be a stupid thing for rural states to sign on to.

73 posted on 02/05/2019 7:12:39 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation gets the government it deserves." -Joseph de Maistre)
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To: faithhopecharity

Unfortunately each state decides how their electoral votes are delegated. If they decided to toss a coin, it would be legal.

In my opinion none of this is in accordance with the Founding Fathers intent. whether by this method or winner take all on the state level.

An electoral votes intent is the vote of citizens in a Congressional District. That’s the reason that each Congressional District is allocated one vote in the Electoral College.

Once statewide winner take all systems were employed, political parties could use massive rallies, get out the vote drives, chicanery, and intimidation to win all Electoral Votes for their candidate. Rural Congressional Districts votes didn’t matter.

If Electoral Votes were allocated by the vote in each Congressional District, it wouldn’t matter whether 90 percent of voters in a Congressional District voted, or 10 percent. The electoral ballot would reflect the wishes of the citizen within a Congressional District, no matter how many were able to get to the polls. Hurricanes, earthquakes, and national disasters would not have an effect in the outcome.

Last of all all, political parties could not use voter fraud, vote harvesting, fraudulent absentee ballots, and intimidation to take a statewide vote and wipe out the wishes of the other Congressional Districts.

Actually elections for President, Senate, and House need to be federalized, and held on a separate date from state and local elections. Only those register with proof of citizenship, and holding a government issued photo ID should be allowed to vote.

Applications for absentee ballots should include proof of identity, a valid reason the voter cannot vote in person on election day, and a signed declaration that the voter is not registered to vote outside of the Congressional District in which he or she is voting (if a false declaration is given the offence should be punishable by a minimum of one year in federal prison, and the loss of voting rights for a minimum of ten years).


74 posted on 02/05/2019 7:32:17 AM PST by Yulee
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To: silverleaf
There should rename the state colofornia

Better, they should rename it coloblueo. Early explorers called the area color red because of the color of the soil. The state will not recover from the deep blue it’s become without deep hurting. The color of bruises are blue.

75 posted on 02/05/2019 7:34:05 AM PST by conservativeimage (These are dark times, there is no denying.)
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To: vannrox
National progress tracked here.
76 posted on 02/05/2019 7:42:15 AM PST by upchuck (Allowing any legal abortion was a slippery slope. Slide completed. ~ h/t YogicCowboy)
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To: stremba
I don't think they need the law. The Colorado Democratic party could require the people they select as electors to swear to vote for the candidate with the most popular votes nationwide. The Republicans need not follow suit but they aren't likely to win Colorado anyway.

So you might find the Democrat nominee carrying Colorado but the Democrat electors being pledged to vote for Trump if he has more popular votes. Of course if the electoral vote margin is close, they will renege and vote for the Democrat. Probably they will do so in any case. They can always count on the gullibility of the voters.

77 posted on 02/05/2019 8:22:49 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: commish

The trouble is it’s not really a compact. It’s a state passing a law whose enforcement is contingent on other states’ actions. There is no direct agreement among the states involved; there are only individual state laws that take effect conditionally. If it were a compact, then states abiding by the compact could sue a state that agreed to it but later broke its terms. I think that’s where it falls apart. The first time a popular vote goes against a state’s voters and that state’s EV’s would flip the election, the state will likely fail to abide, and there’s nothing any other state could do about it.


78 posted on 02/05/2019 9:27:54 AM PST by stremba
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To: vannrox

Another Constitutional end run the Controlled Opposition Party [COP] will act helpless to thwart.


79 posted on 02/05/2019 4:30:26 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Drew68

Too true.


80 posted on 02/05/2019 4:31:09 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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