Posted on 02/15/2019 5:19:42 AM PST by SJackson
I do not like Green Deals and Ham, Sam I am!
The regs would be fairly simple to implement. Abolish private vehicle sales; then increase the taxes on privately owned autos every year until only the 1% could afford them. Ban piston engine planes, and allow jet aircraft only for the business purposes of the owners (and state specifically that carrying freight and passengers isn’t a business purpose). Then aircraft would be generally available only to the 1%. Allow only clean electric mass transit, and limit railroads to green only electric lines. Shut down all fossil, hydroelectric and atomic nuclear plants; ration the remaining green power for the “public good”. (The 1% could afford their own green power generation which would be off the grid). Eliminate fossil fuel powered ships.
This should lead to mass starvation that would put Stalin to shame and elimination of the kulaks leaving only the 1% living in luxury and the poorest proles leading a 15th century existence. The ultimate Green goal.
I hate the force of government as much as anyone, but when it comes to rail, there is just a lot of knee-jerk ignorant hatred coming from our anti-government side.
The REAL argument should not be “rail sucks” (which it DOES NOT) or that it’s “antiquated” 19th cent while somehow 20th cent airplanes and cars aren’t, but that government has no business doing any such projects at all, and forcing its vision of what is right on anyone.
‘high-speed rail” project would be slower and more expensive than air travel, and would not take passengers where they need to go.’
By the time we are forced to get to the airport far early and FINALLY get on a plane, it takes just as much time for say, a CA trip. And no, the airplane has no special advantage on “where we need to go” - we ALWAYS end up taking a taxi or bus or finding a rental car. It’s not as if an airplane drops you off exactly where you need to be. Come on guys.
It’s a gadget play intended to get massive gains for Socialism.
They’ll end up with national health care and guaranteed jobs for everyone. We’ll get to keep airplanes and hamburgers and feel like it was a winning compromise.
If it is green, it doesn’t work.
Green New Deal: green on the outside; red on the inside.
The green new deal is a fraud. It would take the burning of more fossil fuel energy to build the Green Economy and convert than the Green Economy would produce over 20 year period
Let us narrow the conversation and focus on bovine flatulence.
Assuming that said flatulence is 100% methane (it isn’t, but)...
We can find that methane is included in the greenhouse gas (GHG) regulations. All GHG are calculated using a standard of CO2-equivalents (CO2e). This measure is an indication of “radiative force” of the material (how heat energy is reflectied or absorbed).
Looking at the IPCC info, we see that the CO2e comparative value for CO2 is 1.46 and Methane is 0.48. Methane is approximately one-third LESS “radiative” than CO2.
Let’s simplify. For our purposes, let’s assume that a single cow flatulates a VERY large estimate of one cubic meter (1M^3) of methane each day (STP), running that out to a realized lifetime of 22 years, a cow emits 8030M^3 in a lifetime. Wow, that a lot of greenhouse gasses, right?
Now, do a little math and internet research and find out how much CO2 a cow breaths out in its lifetime.
That too is a lot of GHG emissions, right? Notice how it is A LOT MORE than the flatulence volume? Now apply one more step...Evaluate the relative impact when the cows breath is 3 times more radiative than its farts!
It would be more helpful to kill all the cows for their breathing than for their farts.
AOC, turns slowly and looks at YOU....
No Milk-—No cereal—those manufacturers will lay off thousands of people.
No Milk-—or cheese—or ice cram—or sour cream-—or or or.
No cowhide for shoes, boots, belts, purses, and other protective surfaces.
No vacations out of the continental USA. Nothing but SHORT vacations inside the USA because you spend so much time trying to get there. More jobs lost.
People who live rural will be abandoned.
No more police vehicles.
No more ambulances.
No more fire trucks.....
We all know that AOC is bat chit crazy. The question is WHO will put her down for good???
Everyone seem to forget that the mentally-challenged Ed Markey was also responsible for this.
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They are just trying to create a new Dark Ages.
Dictatorships and a rigid class system flourished during the Dark Ages.
That’s what they really want.
Dictatorships? They’d call it nobility. Among themselves. But that is what they want, it’s where the power is.
Easier to ban fuel. The homeless can live in the empty cars, they don't really care about the homeless. Planes potentially a bit embarrassing, but manageable. Starvation, plenty of ruminants around to rid the world of, when they run out, who knows. As I noted in a thread I posted yesterday, in the past the elite survived, even if it meant eating cats and rats.
Abandoned by government not such a bad thing. I'd prefer rural should this happen.
Fuel won't work - there are always home made substitutes. From alcohol (yes, some modifications necessary, and parts won't last as long) to gassing off wood or coal like the Nazis did.
According to the article here, the range is competitive with electric.
https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html
Yes, though I’m assuming you couldn’t use such vehicle publicly. Not happening, still might be fodder for a Mel Gibson/Mad Max movie. Tina Turner can play an old AOC
Age of Soylent.
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