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Trump’s Approach to Diplomacy Hits a Snag in North Korean Summit
WSJ ^ | Feb 28, 2019 | MICHAEL R. GORDON

Posted on 02/28/2019 9:52:46 AM PST by upchuck

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Interesting comments and ideas from various officials, ex-officials, etc.
1 posted on 02/28/2019 9:52:48 AM PST by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Interesting in that they expose these individuals as partisan nincompoops.


2 posted on 02/28/2019 9:57:00 AM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: upchuck

Trump sent a clear message to both Kim and China.


3 posted on 02/28/2019 9:57:13 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: upchuck
“This really speaks to the lack of preparation,” said Joseph Yun, the former State Department envoy for North Korean issues

Once I see "former" I know the person has an axe to grind and anything they say is inaccurate and typically self serving.

4 posted on 02/28/2019 9:59:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: upchuck

Fat boy is hoping for a better deal with the Democrats and the ChiComs

So I think he is trying to delay delay delay until Trump is out

That is what I am thinking here

Democrats take over and Fat Boy gets tons of free food, weapons, heck even uranium and all he had to do was make an empty threat. Back to the “good old days” so to speak


5 posted on 02/28/2019 9:59:51 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: upchuck

The good news is that if all else fails, we do have the big button and it actually works. ;)


6 posted on 02/28/2019 10:00:25 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: upchuck

DemonkkkRAT Talking Points, written by a demonkkkRAT party scribe and hack.


7 posted on 02/28/2019 10:01:30 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: upchuck

My take is that Kim overplayed his hand and Trump just did what Reagan did with Gorbachev and just pulled the plug on the Summit and left. Kim got the message now and if he trult wants to come out of the cold then he will have to put up or shut up.


8 posted on 02/28/2019 10:02:15 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: upchuck

Art of the Deal.

Rocket-man has never negotiated with a a real businessman. I never really expected much to come from this meeting. There were no talking points sent out to the media


9 posted on 02/28/2019 10:02:16 AM PST by Dacula (Be a better today than you were yesterday and an even better person tomorrow.)
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To: upchuck

Interesting comments? BS!

Hey, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions - still in place, starving the Norks. Time is on our side.

All is good.


10 posted on 02/28/2019 10:05:38 AM PST by RightGuy
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To: upchuck

The other option Trump had when he met resistance from a hard core adversary to a denuclearization deal was to follow the lead of a prior administration and lift sanctions while releasing 100 billion dollars to the adversary along with a billion in cash on a palette and agree that they can start building a nuclear program 10 years after the agreement was signed and after you are out of office. And then wrap it up with a nice bow and sell it with the assistance of the media misnomered as a “peace” agreement. Sometimes the best course of action is not an agreement at any cost but just to walk away until economic pressures make it a bit more unbearable for the other side. Time for Trump to pressure sanctions breaking China as part of trade negotiations that part of the deal will be China will be penalized with tariffs if they break sanctions on NK
until they correct their behavior.


11 posted on 02/28/2019 10:05:45 AM PST by chuckee
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To: upchuck

I have no doubt that Mr. Gordon had another article prepared saying how unprepared Trump was and was forced to sign an agreement giving away our options on the Korean peninsula. No matter which outcome occurred, they would be saying how stupid and unprepared President Trump was for this meeting.

President Trump is damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t, and stupid no matter what.


12 posted on 02/28/2019 10:05:49 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I think the plan of this summit is in plain sight. Trump kept saying he wasn’t concerned about a fast result. He knew this summit was not to reach a deal. We knew NK was concealing nuclear sites and this summit was to tell them we know. Trump said as much. When NK was not willing to give up those sites on the spot, the summit ended and NK will need to reassess its’s position.

Contrary to the silly Fox commentators drooling over the great “body language” etc, it was obvious something was happening behind the scenes. Trump was calm and in control, Kim looked wary. The president stated we confronted them about their secret sites. We did not expect a deal this time. As usual, the media is too mechanical to listen to what is being said.


13 posted on 02/28/2019 10:12:11 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: Dacula

No Deal – President Trump Holds a Press Conference Prior to Departing Hanoi, Vietnam…

Posted on  by 

Despite several positive and remarkable comments from Kim Jong-un, President Donald Trump and the North Korean Chairman could not come to a substantive agreement after two days of negotiations on the process to denuclearize the Korean peninsula.

During a press conference prior to departing Hanoi, Vietnam, President Trump cited two issues:

  1. A North Korean demand for the immediate removal of all multinational economic sanctions; and
  2. The unwillingness of North Korea to be fulsome about their missile and nuclear locations. 

WATCH:

BREAKING 🔴 President Trump URGENT Press Conference at Hanoi Vietnam Summit

Additional Thoughts:

In the backdrop of the Hanoi summit, and as U.S-China trade negotiations continue, the Trump administration suspended the implementation of the March 1st tariff increase on Chinese goods.  Unfortunately, attaining this goal may have empowered a cunning Chairman Xi Jinping to influence the demands of DPRK Chairman Kim.

A covert influence connection will become clear if President Trump now takes an even more firm trade and tariff position toward China. We’ll keep watching closely.

Chairman Xi may have won this round, but we can expect an angered and strategic President Trump to hit back twice as hard.

In this dance with the dragon President Trump cannot simply reverse the tariff suspension, that approach would be too obvious.  Instead my suggestion would be to look for signs of the U.S. reviewing Chinese violations of the North Korea sanctions.

A key indicator will be if over the next several weeks, we see the U.S. Treasury and/or Commerce Department beginning to point out those who are violating the sanctions against North Korea.

It’s an open secret that China is the largest violator; but President Trump has been giving everyone a pass due to progress on both the China trade and DPRK nuclear talks.

With a set-back in the overall process, and with China playing games, we might just see a renewed focus on U.S. sanction enforcement, specifically targeting China.

What we will not see is President Trump acquiescing to China on trade and economics simply to get Kim Jong-un away from Beijing’s clutches.  That massive ransom payment falls too heavily, and too exclusively, on the United States – while regional allies gain the benefits of peace on the back of a lessened U.S. economy.

That sh!t deal wouldn’t pass the MAGAnomic ‘America First’ test; not even close.

That exact conversation is what President Trump likely will be explaining to South Korean President Moon Jae-in (the Asian Obama), and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on the flight home.  THAT EXACT CONVERSATION!


14 posted on 02/28/2019 10:15:11 AM PST by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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To: Williams

I believe that your post is correct.


15 posted on 02/28/2019 10:16:40 AM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: wbarmy
I don't doubt such an article was ready from all fake news media.

NK was always going to be described as a failure for Trump no matter what happened.

I'm disappointed Trump didn't get what he wanted but I'm pleased he walked away rather than be a Neville Chamberlain ("Peace in our Time" with Hitler) or Obama (Iran deal).

16 posted on 02/28/2019 10:17:07 AM PST by newzjunkey (WALL or NOTHING)
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To: upchuck

I blame the Democrats and the MSM... but I repeat myself. The Cohen hearings are just the latest hope given to China and NK that they won’t have to deal with Trump much longer. Therefore... wait for a better deal from the politics-as-usual crowd.


17 posted on 02/28/2019 10:17:48 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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That time Reagan won the cold war by WALKING OUT

In 1986, Rolling Stone claimed Reagan "flubbed" the Reykjavik summit

Some things never change.

18 posted on 02/28/2019 10:21:33 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: wbarmy

Either a fool or a never Trumper.

In either case, a fool.

First, you buy a Coke at 711 instantly.

You do not buy a major piece of real estate or a manufacturing facility in a five minute sit-down. It takes time and sometimes endless negotiation.

Negotiating with N. Korea is not a five minute sit down. Only a fool with think so.


19 posted on 02/28/2019 10:25:50 AM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: upchuck

Move to plan ? ,remove the Kim Family ,LOL


20 posted on 02/28/2019 10:35:44 AM PST by butlerweave
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