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Trump’s Approach to Diplomacy Hits a Snag in North Korean Summit
WSJ ^ | Feb 28, 2019 | MICHAEL R. GORDON

Posted on 02/28/2019 9:52:46 AM PST by upchuck

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To: upchuck

I think the optics of stepping away are good. It says to the average Joe that Trump is serious business and isn’t going to give away the farm. It’s a simple takeaway that anyone can understand, and it contrasts well with Obama bending over for Iran.


21 posted on 02/28/2019 10:35:55 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Trump.Deplorable

As soon as the China tariffs go into effect, the Norks will come back to the table. This move on Kim’s part was to test whether Trump would walk away. Trump walked.


22 posted on 02/28/2019 10:37:26 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (TRUMP YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!!!)
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To: upchuck

Would these fools in the commie media have been pleased had President Trump signed a deal that would have been detrimental to the United States, would that have made them all happy campers? Un only wanted to give up ONE portion of his nukes, and get ALL sanctions lifted, that is what he wanted, Trump said HELL NO..because look at what Obama did with Iran, he gave them billions of OUR tax dollars and got nothing in return. Trump would have been a total hypocrite had he basically done the same thing. Id rather him walk away from a deal that would have been HORRIBLE than sign something that would have bit him in the ass. Nothing President Trump does, NOTHING will ever satisfy these morons


23 posted on 02/28/2019 10:37:30 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: upchuck

Keep in mind that EVERY publication including many conservative publications blasted Reagan for “failing” at Reykjavik . . . just as Gorby was desperately trying to revive the talks, knowing he got crushed.

See my section on this in the upcoming “Reagan;The American President.” (Out May 1).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1642930822/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1


24 posted on 02/28/2019 10:41:46 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 1Old Pro

Screw all of the anti-Trump “formers”. That is why they are failed former and irrelevant. What the left saw as victory with the Norks was sipping champagne over a BS deal of lies. The Swamp is joyous over this news. Anything negative for President Trump is positive for the Swamp.


25 posted on 02/28/2019 10:42:42 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: upchuck

Pompeo is correct. A communist dictatorship does not permit iniative by lower ranking officials and reserves all decisions to the top level. Trump short-circuited that, forcing Kim to engage directly and stripping away the obfuscations and delays of low level discussions. The result is that Kim and his regime are exposed as unreasonable, which in turn justifies a tightening of sanctions.


26 posted on 02/28/2019 10:48:12 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: upchuck

No, actually, Trump’s actions were entirely appropriate and to be expected when one of the parties throws a wrench into the works. In this case, it was likely a case of the Nork generals perceiving some weakness on the president’s part due to the Cohen testimony and some trepidation that Kim might be getting a little too cozy with Trump. Trump says, “OK, we’re done” and the Norks look at one another with the “WTF, That didn’t go well” look.

With respect to the first point, the Dems pulled a Vietnam on the president.


27 posted on 02/28/2019 10:48:43 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: All

I have strong areas of disagreement with this kid at times - but this is pretty good analysis: https://youtu.be/1ZktbPoQxo4


28 posted on 02/28/2019 10:53:03 AM PST by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: old curmudgeon

Maybe you misunderstood. I did not mean that Trump was stupid, but that all these commentators believed that.

I think President Trump did exactly what he needed to do and did the right thing. I was just disgusted by the writer of the article.


29 posted on 02/28/2019 11:07:18 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Col Frank Slade

Yes he did.......and not to forget the UNBELIEVABLE $21 Billion U.S. Trade Deal he signed off on with Vietnam while there! That is huge!


30 posted on 02/28/2019 11:10:43 AM PST by caww
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To: upchuck
Reagan and Gorbachev had 'five' summits before anything concrete was established....Trump made the right decision to push for more than minimal steps and take no deal over a bad deal.

The press of course is again trying to 'drive their agenda' negatively toward President Trump.

THIS is how they parted...President Trump says goodbye to Chairman Kim at close of Hanoi Summit.....pic by Sarah Sanders


31 posted on 02/28/2019 11:18:16 AM PST by caww
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To: SENTINEL

That Rolling Stones article is a crack up. Amazing what going a few years forward does to that.


32 posted on 02/28/2019 11:23:32 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: caww

“We walked away but it was very friendly. We shook hands. It was friendly.”...... Chairman Kim promised me there would be no testing. I believe him.” ..President Trump

“Kim was not prepared to do what the United States expected so President Trump walked, ending the summit early.....”We ‘agreed’ we would continue to work together on the issues.”....Mike Pompeo


33 posted on 02/28/2019 11:31:10 AM PST by caww
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Here is my novel take.

Trump convinces Kim that the asshole US congress is trying to upstage Kim with the nonsense distraction and it would be better to disclose a deneuclearization at a Surprise event. Catch them with their D**ks in their hands and send them to the political scrap heap where they belong.

I know this is a dream, but wouldn't it be a truly NOVEL idea.

34 posted on 02/28/2019 11:33:06 AM PST by Cannoneer ("the question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me." Ayn Rand)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
<>i>Trump Walked.

I think this was as much a message to China as it was to NK. "I am not Obama, Bush, etc. We get an honest deal or we walk."

These are the types of actions that will get Trump reelected.

35 posted on 02/28/2019 11:41:28 AM PST by Cannoneer ("the question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me." Ayn Rand)
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To: upchuck

The problem with negotiating with the US for foreign leaders is, while they can trust Pres. Trump, what happens after he leaves office? From a foreign perspective our country’s policies can dramatically change from one administration to another.

Kim probably knows he has to do something or his country starves and he dies in a coup. But if he gives up everything he could face a coup or attacked. Remember what happened to Ghaddafi.


36 posted on 02/28/2019 11:45:00 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: upchuck

Now think about the Iran deal. Obama gave it all away...and we got nothing.


37 posted on 02/28/2019 12:11:05 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: wbarmy
My apologies for being lazy and not taking the time to make the point clear that I was not referring to you or your comment, but rather to the author of the article.

Anyone who works for the WSJ has covered stories on mergers, buyouts, business dissolution, etc., and knows well that the more complicated a problem is, the longer it takes to reach an acceptable solution.

I would judge that dealing with N. Korea is as complex as it gets.

Therefore it is obvious that the author is a Never Trumper and therefore, a fool.

38 posted on 02/28/2019 1:08:20 PM PST by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: upchuck

NK wants 5 of the 11 2016-17 sanctions lifted in return for dismantling Yongbyon.

They previously agreed to reveal all of their nuke processing facilities and gave us the list.

At the summit, we told them that we knew about a secret facility that they were hiding. They were stunned.

We said that we want a full list of every processing and storage facility, and that we want the right to inspect onsite along with any other facilities that we suspect.

They went dark and were unable to respond.

The summit was over at that point.

Besides, Yongbyon has been only a shell for years since they tore the cooling tower down 10 years ago.


39 posted on 02/28/2019 2:42:15 PM PST by gandalftb
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