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Can The Holocaust Be Forgiven?
Townhall.com ^ | April 15, 2019 | Michael Brown

Posted on 04/15/2019 5:52:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Lurker

Even your judgement of my statement creates a shackle on your soul.

Remember Jesus’ words...” I have not come to judge, but to save.”


21 posted on 04/15/2019 6:42:47 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Kaslin

How can I ask forgiveness if I can’t forgive others.


22 posted on 04/15/2019 6:43:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: tired&retired

“Remember Jesus’ words...” I have not come to judge, but to save.”

Lots of folks like to cherry pick the words of Jesus. I can see you’re one of them.

Have a nice day.

L


23 posted on 04/15/2019 6:46:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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24 posted on 04/15/2019 6:52:07 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

I think the difference is ‘wholesale forgiveness’ vs individual forgiveness

One of my personal heroines is a Dutch Christian named Corrie ten Boom....
....she and her middle aged sister lived in the heart of Haarlem, Holland during the war
They were devote and loving Christians

They were also compassionate and when Jewish people.....who trusted and loved them....began turning up at their door seeking help and hiding.....the tenBooms obliged

Corrie’s Christian brother, a Pastor, and his sons even helped with ‘underground rescue’

They were found out......Corrie and her sister Betsy were sent to Ravenbruck
Her father died in prison......her brother came out of prison seriously ill and dies soon from tuberculosis of the spine
Her sister died in Ravensbruck

Corrie was released eventually after many months of harsh conditions...
Soon after the war’s end.......one of the brutal guards heard her speak at a Christian service.......She talked about forgiveness, and only through God can we forgive

This guard came up to her and put out his hand to shake....and asked her forgivene
...as she tells it, she could no more take his hand in forgiveness than anything....
...so she prayed for God’s help......put out her hand and forgave him

Did she forget what happened to her family and her?.....Of course not!
Could she trust God to move her forward in life and heal her heart.....YES!

I’ve been to the Holocaust Museum in DC and have read enough books on it to know it was horrific and words cannot describe the satanic horror of this.
So I’m not dismissing the real feelings of rage in some people.
I’m just telling you Corrie’s story.


25 posted on 04/15/2019 6:58:04 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: tired&retired
If we lived by the rule of an “Eye for an Eye,” pretty soon the entire world would be blind.

That was a lame line of dialogue from Spielberg's movie about the Munich Olympics massacre. Sorry, but those killers needed to be hunted and down and killed.

26 posted on 04/15/2019 7:08:54 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: Kaslin

Where does it stop?


27 posted on 04/15/2019 7:10:30 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Kaslin

I doubt I will forgive the MSM in my lifetime.
Which is convenient because I doubt they will ever ask for it.


28 posted on 04/15/2019 7:13:31 AM PDT by Leep (It's.. (W)all or nothing..!)
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To: Kaslin

ISRAEL LIVES!


29 posted on 04/15/2019 7:17:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rlmorel

Are you inferring that Iran is only a threat to Israel and not the USA and the rest of the world?


30 posted on 04/15/2019 7:28:46 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: KrisKrinkle

“Who is there left to forgive?”

EXACTLY!

Hanging on to “hate” only hurts you.

Do we “hate” all Germans today? We shouldn’t, even if you are a Jew.

Do we “hate” all “white” Americans today? We shouldn’t, even if you are Black.

I never owned a slave or persecuted a Jew. Neither did my father, nor his father, nor his father, nor his father.

We ALL should NEVER FORGET!

But the people who perpetrated these atrocities are all DEAD!


31 posted on 04/15/2019 7:34:47 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I forgot to add that even if they did, THEY ARE ALL DEAD!


32 posted on 04/15/2019 7:36:29 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: KrisKrinkle
Who is there left to forgive?

Nearly nobody. Trying to blame those who were not even alive in 1945 is beyond repugnant; anybody who does so should be shunned out of civilized society.

33 posted on 04/15/2019 7:37:15 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Kaslin

Fake uproar.

The fact that Germany is a country (and was two countries) shows it was forgiven.


34 posted on 04/15/2019 7:37:49 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Sans-Culotte; Lurker

It is from the Code of Hammurabi. Hammurabi was King of Babylon, 1792-1750 BC. The code survives today in the Akkadian language.

The quote is actually in the Bible several times, both OT & NT. Exodus 21:24; Lev. 24:20; Deut. 19:21 thus it dates to 6th century BC

Matthew 38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’........

The two Old Testament scriptures refer to it as a law to live by. The New Testament scripture says to not follow the old law, but forgive. I guess you are not Christian and still follow the old law.

Lurker said, “Lots of folks like to cherry pick the words of Jesus. I can see you’re one of them.” No, I understand them in the greater context of His teachings.

It was actually a Ghandi quote long before the movie.


35 posted on 04/15/2019 7:46:01 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Sans-Culotte

“Sorry, but those killers needed to be hunted and down and killed.”

Death is the easy way out. I am for punishment to help a person learn from their errors. I’m pro-life at both ends of the spectrum as life is precious, all life.

It is far better to keep the person in prison where they might suffer enough with the turmoil in their soul that they too may find Christ by the time of their last breath. (I like the vineyard worker parable as it teaches us that it is never too late to accept Christ and the reward is the same for all)


36 posted on 04/15/2019 7:51:17 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Sans-Culotte
That was a lame line of dialogue from Spielberg's movie about the Munich Olympics massacre.

That movie was a blatant rip-off of "Sword of Gideon".

37 posted on 04/15/2019 7:52:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: tired&retired

I have already physically died and have experienced the wonderful bliss available to me. I have no fear of death. Actually, I look forward to the wonderful experience again.

It’s far more difficult to be here than it is to be dead.


38 posted on 04/15/2019 7:53:38 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired
I guess you are not Christian and still follow the old law.

Nope. But I know I could not forgive the Holocaust no matter if that is what Jesus would do or wants me to do. I don't think most people/Christians would either, regardless of what they may say.

It was actually a Ghandi quote long before the movie.

It is still (IMO) a lame line that seems to enjoy its sense of fake profundity. It would be great if everybody forgave each other all the time, and would be even better if people didn't kill each other and need forgiveness. However, in this fallen world, there are evil people who will not be stopped by forgiveness. Was it forgiveness when they hung the Nazi war criminals after the Nuremburg trials? Should they not have hung them?

39 posted on 04/15/2019 7:54:03 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (If it weren't for fake hate crimes, there would be no hate crimes at all.)
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To: Kaslin
Retribution is the Lord's


40 posted on 04/15/2019 7:56:08 AM PDT by montag813
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