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Heroin Is Vanishing as Fentanyl Swamps Streets
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | May 18, 2019 | Abby Goodnough

Posted on 05/20/2019 6:13:47 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: bethelgrad

Same here. The few surgeries I’ve had I could barely tolerate the painkillers. Pain relief, yes. But seriously nauseous.


21 posted on 05/20/2019 6:39:31 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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To: Lurker

LaRouche WAS one weird dude, finally.


22 posted on 05/20/2019 6:40:59 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

We pull out of Afghanistan and the opioids dry up .... go figure... look up aga Kahn btw... richest man in the world and bushes buddy from Yale. Owns all the land it is grown on.... coincidence?


23 posted on 05/20/2019 6:43:43 AM PDT by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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Send them all to Mecksico, Guatemala, Honduras, and Venezuela


24 posted on 05/20/2019 6:50:35 AM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: artichokegrower
Heroin Is Vanishing …

Another milestone of victory along the advance to inevitable unconditional surrender in the war on drugs. More unanticipated consequences fallen along the wayside with all the dead bodies. Victory, oh so sweet.

…as Fentanyl Swamps Streets


25 posted on 05/20/2019 6:50:47 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Who manufacture fentanyl? What countries are the sources?


26 posted on 05/20/2019 6:55:38 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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To: bethelgrad

Exactly, The normal brain doesnt desire such strong feelings. The addic brain is wired differently, the nausea and loopy feels good to them.
Like hot sauce for instance, I love hot hot hot sauce, to me it feels good to burn like that. And they know that its genetic, and the way some are wired.


27 posted on 05/20/2019 6:59:33 AM PDT by phs3 (MAGA - Winning a little more every day!!!)
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To: artichokegrower

The shift from heroin to fentanyl in cities has contributed to surging overdose deaths...

But is there a hidden downside?


28 posted on 05/20/2019 7:01:16 AM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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To: artichokegrower

I guess that’ll “solve” the homeless problem... instead of being homeless and addicted to heroin or crack, they’ll be dead from a Fentanyl OD.


29 posted on 05/20/2019 7:02:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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To: Oldexpat
What countries are the sources?

Does it matter? With respect to the overall plague of drug abuse, I think not. If a source from one country is shut off supply will simply switch to a different country or to domestic production. As I pointed out in many posts, the illegal drug trade is in effect a multilevel marketing scheme which has never been approached for profitability because the price is guaranteed by the government, the more the government cuts off supply the higher the price, the higher the price the more attractive the risks to supply. The more we win the more we lose.

With respect to our foreign policy, I think the source country matters a great deal. For example, we find ourselves funding both sides of the war in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban who profit from the drug trade which we ultimately finance. That was the dilemma for years in Columbia. We find ourselves cutting off remittances to Cuba while Cuba is making money in America from the drug trade.

Our foreign policy, like our domestic war on drugs, is a series of missteps and unanticipated negative consequences.


30 posted on 05/20/2019 7:05:02 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: artichokegrower

I bet some politicians are getting filthy rich off of this.


31 posted on 05/20/2019 7:06:33 AM PDT by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up!)
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To: Oldexpat

Gotta read the article:

“traffickers here and in Mexico can order fentanyl from China”


32 posted on 05/20/2019 7:09:07 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: ConservativeMind

I had a dog that had surgery and was on a fentanyl patch for pain for a couple of days. He seemed totally out of it seeing flying pink elephants or whatever. After a really bad day at work I was so jealous that I was very tempted to rip the patch off and put it on myself.


33 posted on 05/20/2019 7:10:39 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ConservativeMind

For most people, a serious buzz.


34 posted on 05/20/2019 7:17:55 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: BBQToadRibs

...and for me, Pain relief, not much, but seriously nauseous.

Now I tell the doc, Ibuprofen is the best for me. No Tylenol, also makes me nauseous.


35 posted on 05/20/2019 7:18:14 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Drango

I though one side affect of Opiates was Constipation.


36 posted on 05/20/2019 7:18:56 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: LouAvul
And add to the above: to figure out how somebody in congress who makes less than $200,000 a year can amass estates/fortunes worth millions.

Yes, it is amazing. The best Attorney General ever, Jeff Sessions, was worth a paltry 1.8 million when Obama came into office. He seems to have hit it real lucky when everyone body else was struggling at the time. Might explain a few things about his conduct as AG.


37 posted on 05/20/2019 7:34:04 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

Drugs are inanimate...they aren’t ravaging cities and peoples’ lives. It is the person’s bad decisions to use them that is the problem. That is where the responsibility lies. Don’t want to have a drug problem? Don’t use them.


38 posted on 05/20/2019 7:38:34 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Junk Silver

“even if every single dealer has to be publicly executed to make that happen.”

Let’s not stop with one.

To that public execution, I’d add child traffickers, human traffickers, and pimps.


39 posted on 05/20/2019 7:46:26 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ConservativeMind

Good question - heroin has more pain-relieving characteristics than morphine and less than fentanyl...cocaine also has pain-relief characteristics.
I was treated with a dose of fentanyl after a hip replacement and noted that the
high” was not a pleasant one where morphine and cocaine can make one a bit “happier” for a while...seems like heroin and fentanyl are more for the “forget the good feelings, I just want to erase all feelings” folks - who often succeed 100%...


40 posted on 05/20/2019 7:50:19 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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