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Turns Out, Trump Didn’t Give Up On Counting Both Legal And Illegal US Residents
Hotair ^ | 07/12/2019 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 07/12/2019 10:53:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Just put it on the form. What can SCOTUS do about it?


41 posted on 07/12/2019 3:12:08 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Sure doesn’t sound like a win for the left.


42 posted on 07/12/2019 3:22:18 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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43 posted on 07/12/2019 7:38:47 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: Moonman62

That’s what I heard too.

I’m always curious about the details, or even the general concept. What data is useful for this and how would it be used without potential abuse or invasion of privacy? I am envisioning for example the IRS turning over a list of all addresses that report taxes and the number of dependents reported, but not the names. Then checking these numbers for a given address against the numbers (and possibly SSN #s) reported by the census questionnaire. Any other thoughts?


44 posted on 07/12/2019 7:50:05 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think a lot of these comments are way off base. The census drives the apportionment process and DOESN’T DISTINGUISH between citizens and non-citizens. It never has. Congressional seats are apportioned by total population.
Trump is playing the long game. Whether part of the Census or not the count of illegal aliens will only serve to spur public opinion and action by Congress to change this process.
Those who believe that apportionment should be according to citizen population are maybe right, but that is not the current law IMHO.


45 posted on 07/12/2019 9:46:43 PM PDT by Tandem (What ever happened to personal responsibility & self-reliance?)
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To: Brian Griffin

Include the rest of section 2:

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.”

So, everyone gets counted, but apportionment is reduced by the number of inhabitants who are not eligible to vote.


46 posted on 07/15/2019 6:13:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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