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Five Things President Trump Has Proposed to Stop Mass Shootings
Townhall.com ^ | August 5, 2019 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 08/05/2019 3:31:33 PM PDT by Kaslin

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How about this:

Reinstate the second amendment in full, and provide heavy fines and imprisonments to all local, state and federal government entities who infringe on it.

How about they start with that?!


41 posted on 08/05/2019 3:57:10 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Kaslin
Okay, let's look at those five items:
  1. Simplify it to hate and terrorism. Take action on obvious sources, such as Antifa. Reestablish standards that prevented members of groups, such as communists, socialists, anarchists, etc. from buying and owning guns.
  2. Red flag laws. Okay, start by using them for anyone committed, etc. There is a certain point whereupon everyone would agree.
  3. Republicans and Democrats work together? Well, for most that shouldn't be a problem since many Republicans are GOPe and really no different than Democrats.
  4. Yes, set death penalty for murder. Who cares why someone kills another person or several people, if they do so, convict and promptly execute them.
  5. And, yes, let's round up the seriously mentally ill, anyone that is a risk to others. But do it in a manner that respects individual rights, offers transparent review, and recourse.

    Chance of anything meaningful to occur? ZERO. This is election posturing at this point.


42 posted on 08/05/2019 3:57:11 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: familyop

Rush Limbaugh has always said only Trump could separate himself from his base.

This might do it.

Flimsey Grahamnesty being on board is a red flag by itself.


43 posted on 08/05/2019 3:57:13 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: TigersEye

That’s about how I figure it’ll go.


44 posted on 08/05/2019 3:58:02 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Kaslin

When the naacp, the United negro college fund, historically black colleges, the congressional black caucus and any other such group disband we can then talk about this alleged white supremacy.


45 posted on 08/05/2019 3:58:41 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: DMZFrank
Ahead of the game in NV. 😲
46 posted on 08/05/2019 3:59:03 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: wildcard_redneck

They already abuse our rights and freedoms every day.


47 posted on 08/05/2019 3:59:40 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Midwesterner53

A neighbor or associate of a potential home invader would decide by filling out a form with accusations on it. A judge would simply order it. While the order is in effect for months during an mental evaluation, criminals would have free reign over the accused.


48 posted on 08/05/2019 4:00:53 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Kaslin

What about black hate sites like Black Lives Matter, and Mexican hate sites like La Raza?


49 posted on 08/05/2019 4:01:44 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (President Trump IS The Resistance!)
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To: TigersEye

I agree, and some of them are wearing R jerseys.


50 posted on 08/05/2019 4:02:17 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Trump is full of it on this. I’m sure when the lists of white supremacists/nationalists are being compiled FReepers will be compared to Stormers by some in positions of power/abuse.


51 posted on 08/05/2019 4:02:31 PM PDT by sockmonkey (I am an America First, not Israel First FReeper.)
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To: Reno89519
Red flag laws. Okay, start by using them for anyone committed, etc.

That wouldn't be new. Anyone who has been committed has already been through due process (real due process), has been legally prohibited from owning or buying guns and should, by law, have been put in the NICS data base.

52 posted on 08/05/2019 4:02:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Kaslin

Prez steps in sh*t. Stay away from 2A. I give zero leeway.


53 posted on 08/05/2019 4:02:42 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: familyop

The cuckoo doesn’t fly far from the nest...


54 posted on 08/05/2019 4:02:54 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: familyop

Sounds like Jarvanka and we didnt elect them


55 posted on 08/05/2019 4:05:37 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Kaslin

Trump is smart on this by turning it into a win for republicans through attracting minority votes...


56 posted on 08/05/2019 4:06:31 PM PDT by northislander
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To: Kaslin

Whether these proposals will work is another story, especially when it comes to Red Flag laws, which often times infringe on a number of constitutional rights.

That’s only the beginning. Hate crime legislation already passed, is one of the problems. There is no such thing as a hate crime. Who are the leftists that got that bit of stupidity passed the Congress.

Our legal system does not require board certified mental health professionals reading the minds of Morons to determine the possibility of hate crimes. The crime itself is sufficient to bring the charge and make the case, and the jury or judge decides the punishment. NOOOOOO lets make it difficult and do mind reading.

The same applies to the bogus white supremacy meme that’s been floated by the same progressive morons that promote hate. It is not the majority of those on the left of society but enough to make noise to scare Republican politicians.

I’m betting killing Roe v Wade, rescinding homo marriage, making buggering a capital crime once again and worthy of the death penalty, would cause sufficient upheaval on the left as to give them sufficient reason to abandon mass murder for their own protection. If there was a chance that could be done. Not likely.

The direction we are now headed will bring the wrath of God down on all of us and we will have no one to blame. “We have met the enemy and he is us”.

Working together? What honest Republican is going to sacrifice his principles on the altar of progressivism? The other side has no principles, and that is another part of the equation bringing all of the manure down upon our heads.


57 posted on 08/05/2019 4:07:12 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Sounds right to me.


58 posted on 08/05/2019 4:07:14 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: northislander

Wrong They’ll still vote (D)


59 posted on 08/05/2019 4:07:48 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: TigersEye

Don’t get on it. Some people actually get away with lying on the 4473. I ‘ve seen it.


60 posted on 08/05/2019 4:09:45 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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