Posted on 08/10/2019 4:13:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Sorry...for the sarcastic impaired /sarc
Do you know how many nationss would starve if we every stop sending food? Well that would bring world population down to 500 million.
Look to the Khmer Rouge for the historical example.
...baking soda and grapefruit rinds to discourage bugs.
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How are they going to mine and ship the baking soda to the farmers in the interior? How do the grapefruits get from the citrus-growing areas to the corn and wheat-growing areas?
I bet they they’ll plant marigolds.
Or subsist on the micro-greens grown by urban *farmers*. And those $100 urban chickens who lay $6 eggs and subsist on roaches and leftover micro-greens. Entire city blocks will run off methane from composted chicken poop.
All those vegans won’t even eat the rats. And they will have BIG rats. Even some with two legs.
Easy. They’ll just buy the app and download the farm products.
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There are three options: Vegetable oil fired diesel engines, Wood fired steam engines, and draft animals.
Vegetable oil and draft animals will consume a large fraction of the crop (prior to mechanization most farms consumed over 70% of all crops grown on the farms, many could exceed 95%). Breeding the required draft animals would take over a decade as I would expect this to be by far the most popular option.
Wood fired steam engines would rule the Rails with a few on the farms or delivery circuits, but the wood needed would quickly denude the forests of this country. An important and over looked part of this is that the fire box of the locomotives would have to be of a size for which hand stoking is practical.
I do not believe that the peasants would be willing to perform the work required to live without fossil fuels when they know there is an easier way. So while I think we could support the vast majority of the current population of this country without fossil fuels, without an orderly transition all bets are off, and I think an orderly transition is unlikely.
Pot Pot solved this problem by emptying out the cities at gunpoint to make everyone work on the farm collectives. Cambodia’s economy became the greenest in the world, however they ran out of bullets killing the complainers.
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I read recently that Venezuela is doing something similar. 60 days compulsory farm work for everyone, with extensions of another 60 days.
No need for bullets. Malnourished people won’t last long doing manual labor, or have the energy to complain.
Sounds like a Communist Utopia to me./s
How else? Electric Trucks!!!
Our Founders went to war against the worlds one known super power at the time over a 2% tax increase on a freakin’ breakfast beverage for Gods Sake! They’d have shot the piss out of AOC and her ilk. If these little Brownshirts ever get into power they’ll bring us to our knees. They need to be stopped!
Difficult to cold start without some gasoline content.
Every species of plant, crop and tree today maximized growth and photosynthesis somewhere between 850ppm and 1450ppm CO2 concentration. We are around 408, and growing by 1.8 per year. At this rate, in 200 years or so, we will start entering the OPTIMUM range of CO2 for all plant life on Earth, and will stay in that range for about 300 more years. The Lefties have yet to explain how this slow centuries-long progression towards ideal conditions will somehow destroy the planet in just 12 years. They also have yet to explain why the planet wasn't destroyed in the Cambrian Period when CO2 levels of 7000ppm existed.
(as an example, see: https://bmcplantbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12870-018-1243-3... "The optimal CO2 levels for the aboveground biomass were 945, 915, and 1151 ppm, and for the total biomass were 915, 1178, and 1386 ppm for tall fescue, perennial ryegrass, and Kentucky bluegrass, respectively.")
Finding the optimal CO2 levels for plants is easy, and can be done by any HS science class in America... put a dozen plants in a dozen controlled aquariums, with varying CO2 levels... and yet no HS science classes are doing so. It's strange, isn't it, that we are being told that the world will be ending before our current HS kids can hit 30, and yet those HS kids cannot be allowed to do the simple experiments that demonstrate the facts behind the "devastation"? Hmmmmmm.
Also, nobody seems to care much about the Ideal Gas Law... PV=nRT... if global (T)emps are rising, then global (P)ressure or (V)olume (or both) must be increasing... and yet they aren't. (R is a constant, and n is the number of moles. Those aren't changing.) I wonder why this is simply being ignored as well.
Don’t expect any of the news media debate hosts to ask the Demonic-Rats candidates such serious questions!
Biofuels rely, ironically, on the hydrocarbon energy infrastructure, and become more economical the cheaper those hydrocarbon fuels get.
I assume ignorance of the real facts.
“How do you think they plan to reduce the population by 90-95%?”
There’s that...
Horses and mules?
Democrats don’t want them to get product to market. they want dependents who will then have to vote for them to maintain their living.
Midwest Farmers Continue to Support Trump, Part 234
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/10/midwest-farmers-continue-to-support-trump-part-234/
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