Posted on 08/18/2019 10:57:14 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
See my post before this one...
And if everyone gave up their guns, nobody would get shot. ;)
In my state, the solution to this is simple. When the light changes, both directions are red for a couple of seconds.
Why would ANYONE pay a ticket if they were innocent?
Of course, you may be more likely to fight the second one, assuming they were both bogus.
Don’t want a traffic ticket? Don’t break the law.
Go ahead and read the article. It won't hurt you.
I would understand why you’d think this was something nefarious, but I am almost 100% certain that case I mentioned involved a lazy police department who never reviewed the video as required, and a stupid employee at the private company managing the system who didn’t think to ask himself why so many violations had occurred at one place on one day.
There is a youtube crash compilation where I guy flies over a slightly blind hill and runs through a roundabout at about 80 mph. Destroys his car on all the curbs he hits. The car is a Nissan GTR.
HA! I found it. THis is how NOT to approach a traffic circle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNOJ0R6C88Q
Net gain/loss = zero for both.
The only ones gaining are the light providers (usually half the fine) and the municipalities (more money for non-traffic related pet projects, with line the judges' pockets when the fines are contested.
My daughter got a ticket in the mail for running a red light. The picture showed her vehicle clearly stopped and brake lights on. She asked them why she got a ticket for running a red light when she clearly didn’t as shown in the picture. They told her it was because one front tire was on the white line, according to them that meant she was IN the intersection.
She paid the ticket because the process to fight them is difficult, set up to be impossible. If police officers ticketed as strictly as that, no one would tolerate it for long. That sort of enforcement is why people slam on their brakes at intersections with the cameras, because even inches of one tire into the intersection is considered running a red light. I can see why they have more rear end collisions.
“You have to slow down to enter it, and outside traffic has to yield to traffic in the roundabout”
Those are the key points. It takes a bit for everyone to become familiar with the entry / exit rules, but once they do, traffic flows pretty smoothly. With less stress...no lights
Just don’t run red or orange lights
Cameras don’t lie - you just drive too aggressively !
Best thing to do is drive slow
The system was set up to be impossible to appeal. There is no court appearance option; as the article explains these were not handled the same as if a police officer wrote you a ticket. The tickets from cameras are a civil matter so your option would be to sue. If you just refuse to pay it is considered an unpaid fee, then you cannot register the vehicle without paying and of course if you don’t get your vehicle registered it snowballs from there.
In the area I was familiar with that was doing this, the main complaint I heard was the fact that there was no way to dispute them, no way to defend yourself.
Wasn’t she sent the photograph? Most send the photograph with the violation payment invoice.
In Tennessee you can’t be forced to pay a ticket from a red light camera. They can’t ding your credit or take your Driver’s License or give you points. All they can do is send you letters and say scary sounding things. And the notices you get are all by first class mail so they have no proof you even received them.
LOL.
If they won’t stop for safety , they won’t stop for a camera
If they won’t stop for safety , they won’t stop for a camera
She described the “violation” to the car rental co., but they weren’t interested.
Maintaining a good working relationship with the rental co. was her #1 concern.
Small claims court. My guess is the ticketing town would not bother to show up.
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