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Beijing folds on Hong Kong extradition law, but the genie is out of the bottle
American Thinker ^ | 09/04/2019 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 09/04/2019 7:53:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: bert

Appreciate your insight!


21 posted on 09/04/2019 9:40:04 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (Call an addiction! hotline and say you're hooked on phonics.)
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To: toast

It is more likely they would spread the idea of freedom the more they interacted with the mainland Chinese.

Thus, the Social Index. Keep them from traveling.


22 posted on 09/04/2019 9:50:57 AM PDT by taterjay
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To: SeekAndFind

They’ll just have to have the secret police disappear dissidents instead.


23 posted on 09/04/2019 9:55:28 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: SeekAndFind

People will be marginalized, disappeared, starving, fired, slandered. The ChiComs don’t give a sh** about the”peoples” feelings.


24 posted on 09/04/2019 10:17:37 AM PDT by Karliner (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28 Isa 17 "This is the end of the beginning" W Churchill)
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To: bert

“The CCP cannot tolerate the Hong Kong disease breaking out in the adjacent Pearl River Delta territory”

That area will be/is taking the brunt of the the new tariffs (electronics). A generation there has know nothing but boom times, and have no experience with recessions.

They are leveraged with debt to a extraordinarily dangerous level - historic bubble.

The Hong Kong dollar is freely convertible - unlike the Yuan/Renminbi currency of the mainland. Hong Kong has burnt through their foreign reserves to maintain their peg with the US dollar over. If that breaks, Katie Bar the Door!


25 posted on 09/04/2019 10:20:43 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: marktwain

“China is in a tight spot here, because they need the access Hong Kong gives them.”

Hong Kong is the financial capital of China,and enjoys a special “sovereign” status that gives them access to the hard currency financial system of the world.

The CCP has printed their Yuan/Renminbi in a frenzy, that is by far the biggest monetary bubble in human history.

Their Dollar, Euro and Yen based economy is really a pretty closely run thing, teetering on the edge of default, barely able to pay the interest on their debt.

If they kill the goose that lays the golden eggs (Hong Kong), their financial Ponzi scheme will likely burst so spectacularly, that it will be visible from outer space.

It may be unstoppable already. The political disruption might be an effect of the coming financial implosion, or it could be the spark that ignites it.

Get what you can out of China, while you still can.

The Party is coming to an end, and the hangover will be epic.


26 posted on 09/04/2019 10:31:54 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: ckilmer

“a collapse in the hong kong dollar. The Chinese can prop it up —but it will cost them.”

If it was just the Hong Kong dollar, foreign reserves of the mainland could maintain the peg.

But if they really have to, they will probably be dealing with stampedes and crashes on multiple fronts - supporting the Renminbi, the stock markets, real estate values, debt and banking failures, the economy, etc.

Beyond the end of the mainland’s foreign reserves, lies the abyss.


27 posted on 09/04/2019 10:37:11 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: 353FMG

Yes, withdraw publicly, report privately.


28 posted on 09/04/2019 10:41:30 AM PDT by Billyv ( Ephesians 6:11 for we battle not against flesh and blood...Pray for our leaders and nation!)
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To: MeganC

“the CCP are afraid that if they move on Hong Kong then President Trump will use that as a handy excuse to impose a total trade embargo on them.”

The whole world (well, the International banking system), could revoke Hong Kong’s special “Sovereign” status, if they are politically absorbed (r overtly controlled) by the mainland.

That would be an epic financial disaster for the mainland.

The CCP needs Hong Kong, more than Hong Kong needs them - and Hong Kong is hugely dependent on the mainland now.


29 posted on 09/04/2019 10:44:21 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SeekAndFind

Burn-knee and Airhead Obtusely-Crazy are greatly disappointed over this.


30 posted on 09/04/2019 10:54:47 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: BobL

“I do think this move now gives them the pretext to move in, should the protests continue.”

Agreed.

China would have it so much easier if they just accepted HK as a federated but self governed state — then China could milk the golden cow for years to come.


31 posted on 09/04/2019 11:15:47 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: marktwain

“Many wealthy party members have millions and billions invested in Hong Kong as a safe haven.”

Joke’s on them. They should have put their money in Switzerland or the Caymans like other good totalitarians do.


32 posted on 09/04/2019 11:18:05 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: livius

“The Communists would do the same thing here in the US if they could. My fear is that with the radicalization of the Dems, they might be able to do it. And so goes the last best hope.”

The communists here are already colonializing flyover country.


33 posted on 09/04/2019 11:19:48 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: SeekAndFind

Commies will still enforce rule by decree, law by whim, extrajudicial killing, torture, confiscation, etc.

They’ll just do it without this particular “law” in place.


34 posted on 09/04/2019 12:00:26 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Epstein proves it's all a charade.)
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To: bert

Regardless of how this ends, China is going to continue to strip Hong Kong of its financial clout and ship it to Shanghai.


35 posted on 09/04/2019 1:01:24 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Shadow44

The outcome is beyond my capacity.

My thought is that History is a process and not an event.

Change is underway as we post. There is no certainty


36 posted on 09/04/2019 1:08:46 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.btyC. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: DoughtyOne

Treaty with Britain signed 1984 established HK autonomous government for fifty years after the end of the 99 year lease. Beijing abrogated terms of that treaty upon submitting a list of approved candidates for the local elections. Downhill trend established ever since.


37 posted on 09/04/2019 4:14:00 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: ckilmer
“But like most everyone analyzing this, it’s probably too little, too late.” I’m no friend of China, but I do think this move now gives them the pretext to move in, should the protests continue. The people of Hong Kong need to be careful now..\...... .... If the chinese army intervenes then the concept of one nation two systems dies. As a result the US will cut the hong kong dollar from its US dollar peg. That will result in a collapse in the hong kong dollar. The chinese can prop it up —but it will cost them.

Partner, President now has a lot of options on the table. There will be a total embargo on the Chicom economy and the Chicoms know this very well.

It will be the end of the Intellectual theft, the cheating and the copying of products made by U.S. companies.

We all wish that we could get just American CEO's as the head of the American company that they lead. An American at least has more loyalty to this country than a foreigner as the CEO of an American company.

No president in 28 years has ever even looked at these huge problems like we have right now in trade and foreign CEO's that do not have the best interests of our country.

This really tells us that we have not had very good U.S. presidents at all these past 28 years, since President Ronald Wilson Reagan.

38 posted on 09/04/2019 4:23:53 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Shadow44
Regardless of how this ends, China is going to continue to strip Hong Kong of its financial clout and ship it to Shanghai.

Partner, u said a mouthful there. Thanks for this comment.

39 posted on 09/04/2019 4:25:32 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Ozark Tom

Thanks Tom.

Yeah. Who saw that coming? Right...


40 posted on 09/05/2019 3:08:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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