Posted on 09/16/2019 9:29:33 PM PDT by Cronos
yes and their manufacturing works on the Toyotoa J-I-T principle. They are shifting their manufacturing lines to the continent and will at the most assemble or just sell finished products to the UK
The main thing is - will that deal pass by parliament?
I believe they can if they put May deal 2.0 with the only change being an Ireland-only backstop.
This would get acceptance from much of Labour, from the Tories and maybe Plaid Cymru - and if he agrees to a Scottish indyref2 in 2 years, then from the SNP.
he won’t need to depend on the DUP then.
Thanks. I understand. But EU is more oppressive than Westminster with far less “input” ——. Especially as one can foresee the future. I doubt the exchange will prove a wise one over time. But I get the history. Thanks. Also the welfare costs ?
Mad Cow disease?
Of course they raise their own poultry. But you’d have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to know about “chlorinated chicken” where even our ambassador was forced to tell them they were making up lies about American product.
Actually it’s the opposite - the Scots look at the Irish and see
1. Ireland has a veto over decisions and laws made. Right now Scotland has no such veto
2. Ireland has a number of pieces of input:
2.1. its ministers are of equal level with the ministers of germany, france etc. in the european council of ministers. These can propose to the European commission to go an investigate legislation
2.2 Ireland has its MEPs - proportional representation, so similar to the British parliament
2.3. Ireland has its own european commissioner - each country gets one.
2.4. the Irish PM is on equal level with the heads of government from Romania, Germany, etc and has the right to veto
It’s pretty apparent in the Brexit case where Scotland is being dragged out despite voting 63% to remain, while the rest of the eu is basically following Irish direction to focus on keeping the irish border open as a cornerstone.
Generally the Scots have seen what has been their fate versus Ireland’s faith since 1973 and based on the empirical proof, see it to be better as part of the eu rather than the uk if they have to choose
The entire “chlorinated chicken” thing is about
1. Safeguarding British poultry
2. Animal rights as perceived by the British public
The British public is against the idea of battery chickens and theoretically prefer free-range chickens.
That’s where their entire scare about chlorinated chickens comes from.
No offense, but can you please stop writing as if no one has the same sources as you? You have the Guardian there which has been pushing poisonous chickens for a solid two years now along with the corn syrup hysteria. It is to frighten their gullible readers into wanting to remain in the EU.
Let me tell you about the British: if free-range chickens cost more than battery raised chickens, the average Brit is going for the caged bird no matter what song it sings.
Did you read what I wrote?
The Guardian’s pushing of chlorinated chickens as a health hazard is, despite what you say, false - there is no proof for chlorinated chickens being a health hazard or not.
What it IS is not about “remaining in the EU” - if you had read this before you’d know that this entire “chlorinated chickens” bit goes back to the late 90s and is the opinion in the UK.
As I pointed out - this is about protectionism, protectionism for British poultry farmers.
That's provably false - the Brits fell hook line and sinker for the "fair trade" chocolates etc. being charged at huge premiums. If you want to double the pay for chocolate farmers it would still increase the cost of a chocolate by just a couple of cents.
Still people paid the premium
People pay more for free-range marked eggs even today
and more so, if the UK mandates "country of origin" they will patriotically choose British - yes, even the average Brit.
Interesting. Wonder if this leftist Guardian writer also likes to use the word "crashout".
There you will find out what the average Brit thinks of food and food prices and reasonable and outrageous opinions on what the British import and export and what exactly will happen once they leave the EU, if they do. Again, it reconfirms my personal experience with the British that they will do anything not to spend an extra quid for decent food when fish fingers and Dairylea cheese and Bird's Custard Powder will suffice. Oh, and they will tell you that "country of origin" is a moveable feast and cannot be trusted. Just like we cannot trust "Italian" olive oil when it really comes from Greece.
Go there every day and you will learn a lot.
British agricultural exports would not have the volume to be felt on US markets, so favorable treatment for Brit farmers could be traded in exchange for some other concession on the brit side.
Correct, that would be the best approach - the agricultural lobby in the UK would be loud.
Sigh, I read the Guardian, the Sun and the Daily Mirror — the truth is somewhere between all of them.
I’d suggest you read the wider group - all newspapers distort views for themselves.
As to what Brits think of the food prices, I get that first-hand from Brits both in the cities and in the countryside.
So what? You read a couple of newspapers and talk to some Brits in Poland, apparently. I travel there once a year and read all their newspapers when there. Here, I read The Telegraph and The Guardian. I’m sorry but The Daily Mirror screws up my computer or else I’d read that too, I guess, in between the nude girls if they do that anymore.
I am suggesting you read the Food section of The Guardian which is a barometer of what British people think about food and food production. Some very smart people, too, as well as the usual assortment on idiots. Try listening to other people and stop pontificating so much. You were better when you stuck to Catholic issues.
err.. no, I talk to Brits in the UK - I travel there nearly monthly on business and retain my friends from when I lived there.
You give the customers what they want.
If British chicken processors can get by without chlorine chicken baths, surely our processors can too.
You told me a couple of days ago you hadn’t been there since the early or mid two thousands!!!
You told me a couple of days ago you hadn’t been there since the early or mid two thousands!!!
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